LibertyBell

Yes, that was some first week lol. It wasn't historically cold in October by any means but it felt like it with the way recent Octobers have been.

Didn't we have this in December in 2020 too? Something that both December 2010 and December 2020 had in common is that both were la ninas after el ninos, so that may have been a big influence on the high snowfall totals in those 2 la nina winters. Seems like we need either that or a major SSW event like we saw midwinter in 2018 to get big snows in La Nina winters. I saw that an SSW like that might be possible later on in December?

Based on the statistics you quoted, we'd better get snow in the first three weeks of December since the last 10 days have been pretty poor over the past decade.

any tropical or subtropical connection with this, Chris?

well major snow in November is rare anyway and for the second half of November the only thing I remember offhand is the historic Thanksgiving 1989 snowstorm that dumped double digits on Long Island. What a dry and powdery snow that was with temps in the twenties! It stuck to the roads right away too.

I had to do a double take-- 85% chance of a warmer than normal November after how historically cold it was lol. I guess it doesn't take much to wipe out a historically cold departure the first half of the month? And wow those 80 inch plus totals, are those the finals totals from this event? Has to be at least a couple of state records in there-- at least for 24 hour totals?

Yes, it's going to be a real hard freeze tonight (temperature at 28 or below). Last time this happened was March 30-- so the growing season ends tonight.

omg is he or she carrying the trash away? your new sanitation engineer is here ;-)

lol they're awesome as long as they don't come around when people are there on a side note, that snow looks pretty awesome too

Yep that's what that DuPont coverup was about. It only got found out during discovery for that class action they lost. Same as what the chemical lobby did to keep toxic pesticides like chlorpyrifos legal for so long (Dow manufactured that and now that they've merged with DuPont, we can expect more toxic goodies from that unholy union.)

PFOA at the Dupont facility in West Virginia was responsible for children being born with birth defects as well as farm run off that caused cows to bleed out. DuPont illegally dumped a few million tons of the stuff into the waterways there. When they lost the lawsuit all of that came out and the fact that they had a safer alternative but choose not to use it because it was more expensive. PFOA have been found in 90% of all life on the planet and there is no safe dosage for it. We're finally now starting to test for it in our water too.

it's analogous to mixing. Last night was colder than this.

Don are these going to be considered statewide or even national records?

How is that even possible? It's supposed to be below freezing everywhere tonight. You must be measuring the temp near a subway station or grate.

You want consistent snow here, we need to build a large artificial lake to our NW. I wonder how deep and large it would have to be to double our seasonal snowfall totals? Has anyone done any calculations on that?

Yes! Hunting them is much better than them becoming roadkill. Hunting for food is sustainable and much better than factory farming for moral and health reasons.

Yep, exactly what I said above.... hunting is much more ethical and healthier. Unfortunately we have another issue to deal with now A county in Maine had to warn people not to hunt and eat deer because they've found high quantities of PFOA in them. This is now becoming a huge problem that DuPont has been trying to cover up since 1965.

Yes indeed. Hunting for food is not just a good thing it's a necessary thing. Factory farming is much worse and not healthy.

Snowed for an hour here between 8-9 PM temps in the mid 30s. Maybe we can get a repeat tonight?

a quick inch fell in the Poconos from what I saw.

Christmas Eve no less, I wonder if the city and western long island got anything

January 2016 beats them all, I'd rather have 2-3 inches per hour of snow for an entire day vs 5" an hour for an hour or two.

Too bad it came at night.

Another la nina winter and cold and dry from what I remember. We had two moderate sized events back to back 5" and 4" if I remember correctly, both quick night time events and outside of that the winter was cold and dry until the usual big warm up in February. Back in the 80s our Januarys were very cold and dry and we always had big warm ups right in time for February.

This morning was our first freeze.... 31 degrees here (30.9)