LibertyBell

But if it wasn't for that convection NYC would've gotten 20" in this one too just like they did for Boxing Day, with or without any Atlantic blocking.

I felt like we had higher snowfall rates and stronger winds in 1/4/18 that day was an all day white out and full on Blizzard conditions? This one didn't verify as a Blizzard like that one did at JFK did it? JFK had 6 hours of true blizzard conditions so it was actually a double blizzard lol. Know what I call that storm? The HALF GOAT lol. Because it had true blizzard conditions for 6 hours vs Jan 2016 (the GOAT), which had it for 12 hours (so a quadruple blizzard lol), and there was 15 inches of snow vs the GOAT's 30+ inches of snow. The duration was half that of Jan 2016 too.

The other reason that makes 8.3 suspect is that there was more than that north of the Park in the Bronx and also more than that just west of the Park in NE NJ

So the offshore low formed because of the warmth of the ocean out there? So warmer SST give and take away at the same time.... more moisture available for more snow, but also a more eastward track. Quite honestly out here, it doesn't look all that different from Boxing Day, the main difference is that storm lasted longer (a full 24 hours.) That storm was like 18 inches here and this storm was like 14 inches....you really can't tell the difference. I think you and I were up til the end of Boxing Day if I remember correctly, we both measured just as the snow was ending and you were in Long Beach, how much did you get in that storm? How much did you get in this one? Does 18 inches in that one vs 14 inches in this one sound about right to you?

and we all thought that was just a figment of the models' imaginations and fantasies lol. Because usually it doesn't happen but this time it did work out....and screwed the city. I can't complain because I got over a foot of snow, but Manhattan and NW did get shafted somewhat.

so theoretically at least Manhattan could've gotten 20 inches of snow even without Atlantic blocking, they just needed the two low solution / chasing the convection not to happen?

I mean Brooklyn topped out at a foot. I think we can at least say that all of Manhattan had less than a foot of snow.

oh thats awesome, did you take the LIE or the Southern State, I'm pretty close to the Southern State.

You came up with a good idea for nuking convection. How much liquid nitro would we have to dump into the ocean to get rid of the convection lol. Hell, go with liquid helium it's even colder.

it kills me that the center part of the Jersey shore got 20" and that snow somehow took an abrupt turn NE instead of coming due North

oh okay so the differences earlier were gradual compared to when you got to the center part of the Island

he's low key storm chaser extraordinaire

Wow, Don, did you notice a big difference between Western Queens and Eastern Queens, and between Eastern Queens and Western Nassau? What about between Western and Eastern Nassau?

I think so too, the 17-19 amounts seem to start in Eastern Nassau. I don't see any 20+ amounts in Nassau either.

You got over 20" didn't you?

Interesting how snowfall amounts ramped up as soon as you got out of Manhattan....Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn 12 inches, JFK 13 inches, I see 14 inches for Elmont, but I also see 18 inches for Elmont, lol which one is right?

I saw that live. I thought it was awesome how he broke down water equivalence and compared the consistency of snow with temps in the teens to regular Jersey coast snow with temps in the low 30s.

instead it's Atlantic City that got nearly that amount. Who would have thunk....

I guess you weren't in Morris County for Jan 2016 From Allentown to Morristown to JFK to Oceanside we were all 30 plus inches.

For you, for him or for both, Ed?

Parts of the city itself got a double digit snowfall. Brooklyn and Queens are eastward extremes? LOL

Jan 2016 here, a super blizzard that dropped 32 inches of snow

More than that, we are well over a foot of snow in western nassau county, I could walk from here to Queens. Close to a foot and a half here

GFS was god awful we have had well over a foot of snow here, close to a foot and a half in SW Nassau, only 4 miles east of the Queens line

Exactly, so this might be the best possible outcome to get in this pattern