LibertyBell
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Amazing to see that 6.5 inch total from Allentown and then 41.6 inches at Mt Pocono....what were they smoking?! Clearly not cirrus!
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that three month period in 1869 might be unmatched-- it's within a degree across 3 months lol 1871-72 is only off by 0.1 from it but 1871-72 is even more remarkable for having three months in a row average in the 20s and 4 months in a row well below freezing! 1871-1872 was probably a big snowfall and snowcover winter.
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My Winter Outlook for 2022-23
LibertyBell replied to raindancewx's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
that breach won't be temporary and we're going to go WAY past it likely to 2.5 C within our lifetimes. -
The most interesting thing is that the three months of JFM will all have an average temp within a degree or two of each other, I wonder if that's ever happened before.
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Yes it was on the anniversary of the May 1977 snowstorm
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Even JFK got over 46 inches of snow that winter, so we can't even say it was an inland winter, that winter was full of historic cold and big snowfalls too and a historic ice storm to top it all off.
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I like this ice method! It measures the actual amount of snow that fell from the sky, which is the real experience of seeing snow fall, who cares whether it sticks to some surface or not!
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it would be fine if all storms were like January 1996 or PD2. Now that would be Utopia.
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15-16 was more like 82-83 in that respect
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Jan 2022 also, foot amounts came as close to the city as Brooklyn.
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I mean that snow in May was historic so I dont mind it, and it got warm a few days after that
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You definitely want the Pacific on your side, you can get a blockbuster winter with a great Pacific and a bad Atlantic, but not vice versa-- the best example of this is 1993-94 !
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wow they have increased even more than NYC has. I wonder if they had a similar dip in snowfall average in the 70s and 80s like NYC did, and a higher peak back in the earlier decades (when NYC was averaging 30 inches or more of snow every decade.)
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wow interesting, I don't believe we've had many back to back el ninos (the only other ones I know about are 1976-77 and 1977-78) what were the totals in 1918-19 and 1919-20 if you don't mind me asking, Don?
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Yeah the person who designed the highways here just didn't want people to travel a lot between Manhattan and Long Island.
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I think your area should have around a 35 inch average basically between Huntington and Wading River and down to about Upton. SW Nassau is closer to coastal NJ in climate I always look at that area to see if we are going to do well with snow more than I do either Suffolk County or NYC. North coastal NJ though, not a place like Toms River or further south.
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I guess sometimes a slide rule is required lol
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Was 1919-20 also a moderate or strong el nino, Don?
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I would like it to be 30 inches lol, that's a nice round number. That 30 year average is so unbearably close to 30 inches lol, so let's just keep it at 30 inches. Boston's average also went up with the new 30 year averages, but I don't think it got over 45....not sure what it is now but the old 30 year averages were around 42.
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Interesting, 7.2 at Blakeslee (where I-80 and I-81 meet, that's my exit when on I-80) and only 2.7 at Mt Pocono which is to their east lol.
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You're right, and parts of Suffolk County are even more rural. If I didn't know where I was, I would have thought I was somewhere upstate with all the deer around lol. It's also good to remember that the parts of Suffolk County that get the most snowfall also have a latitude advantage over NYC, so they really are like the northern suburbs in that way.
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Lucky lol. The roads on Long Island are horrendous. In a way it makes sense though, as the climate does rapidly change as soon as you head inland. It's definitely a completely different climate zone even a little west of the Lincoln Tunnel. I think that's probably what he's subconsciously thinking, as the distance thing doesn't really work because Suffolk County is pretty far away from the city.
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Good point! So does this apply to the airports too? I couldn't find the maximum snow depth that JFK had for the Jan 2016 HECS but I always assumed it was less than the 30.8" total they measured in the storm, perhaps 28"? And I believe Allentown measured 34.6" in that storm, so their maximum snow depth would have been around 32"?
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just say coastal plain, because the climate rapidly changes as you go inland. I see that as I head west basically once 20 minutes beyond the Lincoln Tunnel you see snow on the side of the roads lol I think NYC and Long Island are mostly in the same climate zone and NW NJ is two climate zones colder than we are.
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I think it's 41 or 42 inches for Boston and for NYC it's about 26 inches (or 28 inches if you use the entire climate record).
