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Refresher snow & obs between ~midnight and Noon Sat Feb 17 2024
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
we got ICONED? -
for whatever reason these clippers usually track too far to the north to give us any meaningful precip
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Admittedly, getting at least three 2 inch events in this winter with snow cover lasting for a week on two different occasions would raise this winter to a C-. We can't expect 30 inches every winter, or even 20 inches unfortunately. If there was only one event in this winter of 2-4 inches it would still be a failure. But getting possibly three such events makes it tolerable.
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We also had an event in April 2006 that is mostly remembered for adding the 0.1 that NYC needed to get to 40.0 on the season. What they don't remember is how heavy the snow was and down here on the south shore, it added up to about 2 inches of snow in 2 hours in the middle of the day. From Brooklyn on east the snowfall rates with this storm were more impressive here than what we got with the so-called February 2006 "HECS"
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers these lol. I think we had a 2 incher in April 2000 also, people tend to forget these events.
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If next year sucks as badly as the previous two, it could be the worst 3 year stretch in recorded history (at least for NYC and maybe BOS too?)
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I think 2020-21 also fits this example, although less so than the examples you listed. 2005-06 was meh, but we did have a December storm and the... "HECS" in February. 40" in NYC.
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Refresher snow & obs between ~midnight and Noon Sat Feb 17 2024
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
why not south and east with moisture coming off the ocean? -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
a banding situation in both cases? is this also why NYC only saw a trace that May even though there was thundersnow? I wonder what the temperature differences were in that storm too, NYC vs PVD vs BOS? -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
Are we sure that wasn't an erroneous situation? I have a hard time picturing Providence getting 7 inches in May lol. How could that happen when Boston had much less? Providence is almost always warmer. -
Refresher snow & obs between ~midnight and Noon Sat Feb 17 2024
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
and it starts around 1 am? I like the ones that start at sunrise, snow all day and end at sunset. -
Refresher snow & obs between ~midnight and Noon Sat Feb 17 2024
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
it would be nice if it snowed all day and then ended with a beautiful sunset.... -
I thought we had like one inch in April? But in the middle of March it was amazingly warm (mid to upper 80s with sunshine!)
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2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
How did Providence get much less than Boston in PD2? PD2 came from the south..... -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
Chris did this also happen in May 1977? I remember Providence got 7" in that snowstorm somehow and Boston only got half an inch (0.5")? -
Do you think it will at least be warm and sunny like March 1990?
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It's probably why mild winters tend to stay mild even when the pattern becomes "better" later in the season. You usually need that December snow and cold to make sure it comes back after any thaw later in the winter.
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Refresher snow & obs between ~midnight and Noon Sat Feb 17 2024
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Yep, we've seen this in prior events like this too. -
Refresher snow & obs between ~midnight and Noon Sat Feb 17 2024
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
we usually do a little better than the city in events like this so in a 2-4 range, it would be Central Park getting 2 and we would get 3, or 3 and 4... this is just going by memory of past events like this. -
This is what I think too, that will just keep the current pattern in place. Truthfully, it's hard to think of what would actually cause a big change to the Pacific if a +2.0C very strong el nino couldn't do it after three years of la nina.
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Refresher snow & obs between ~midnight and Noon Sat Feb 17 2024
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
what if you are at the same latitude as I-78 on the south shore of Long Island? -
and who knows how different the winter would have been with more sustained snowcover to our north as well as more ice cover on the great lakes.
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Thanks.... Do you think Mitchnick is right in his thinking that we need a very strong la nina to entirely change the pacific pattern?
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so this weekend's storm is probably the last snowstorm of the winter?
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Winter storm naming isn't unscientific, it's done in Europe. It's the silly names they pick that I don't like. Winter storm naming can be tied to areal coverage of winter storm warnings for objectivity