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Are these two good analogs for this winter, Don? Both were la ninas that also came after el ninos, although they were much stronger than this one (and the la ninas those two winters were also much stronger.) A few moderate events but no big ones. -
I noticed some of the other winters mentioned where we had 1"+ between the start of winter and Christmas were also la ninas where we didn't have huge snowstorms but at least we had some moderate events. 1983-84 and 1998-99. Are these two good analogs for this winter? Both also came after el ninos, although they were much stronger than this one (and the la ninas those two winters were also much stronger.)
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You can get these in a la nina especially a la nina after an el nino. You just don't want a big thaw in January and then the winter to suddenly end.
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Even Brooklyn and Staten Island totals are near 3"
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It was snowing pretty hard here for awhile between 7 am and 8:30 am and abruptly ended at 9 am when the sun came out. Do we have the updated liquid equivalents for all these stations too?
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Nice 10 AM final update has JFK at 2.5" and many spots in Nassau County including the south shore at 3.0"-3.1"
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Even with winters like 1995-96 we eventually do get our big thaw, the difference is, it then flips back to real winter weather again. 2010-11 changed even more strongly, but that was also a stronger la nina than either 1995-96 or this one Weak la ninas after el ninos are normally good for us, but no telling if that relationship still holds.
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This is more of a trivia thing Walt, but when was the last time we had an inch of snow between the first day of winter and Christmas and when it happened what percentage of the time did it result in a white Christmas?
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Right, it's almost like trying to draw a parallel between November snowfalls and below average seasonal snowfall. The real reason is it takes time for the pattern to reload.
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If you got up early enough you saw it on the streets too. It only melted when the sun came out, it was still there until just before 9 AM.
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Did you get around an 1" from the earlier December event, Ed?
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It stuck here on the sidewalks and the roads but the sun burning the asphalt melted it in short order.
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The airports too. That event earlier in December I woke up at 1 am to snow falling pretty hard, roofs and cars and tree branches covered with now and at 3 am it was all gone. Only a T recorded in the city and at the airports =\
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another la nina bad bust I remember is February 1989 I stayed home from school for that one =\
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Thanks, was the Millenium storm another one like this?
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aren't snowstorms notoriously difficult to pin down in la ninas because of the sharp cut off? The Boxing Day Blizzard wasn't pinned down until like the day before the event?
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Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23
LibertyBell replied to BxEngine's topic in New York City Metro
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JFK may not have measured properly I dont know but when I woke up at 1 am car tops and roof tops and the trees were all covered and it was snowing fairly hard. I wish we could estimate snowfall from radar.
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Thats why I'm taking pictures now before all the snow comes off the branches. Freezing temps by Christmas day?
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Nice storm and maybe we'll get a white Christmas from this, but the snow is about over the sun is already out here and blinding lol
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What did JFK get in that overnight event? I woke up at 1 am and saw we were snowcovered and woke up again at 3 am and it was all gone lol.
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meh the sun is starting to come out now, I guess that's the end of that. I hear people shoveling outside lol That's a new and unfamiliar sound....
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hopefully they all end up at 2.0 or higher when the storm is finished
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Nice to have almost everyone in the same range, with what's fallen since then and still falling we'll all likely be at 2.0 or above.
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My same point that there is no difference between 0.01 rain and just a Trace (talking about October.) There was no real measurable rainfall that month, the first time I've ever experienced that here.
