LibertyBell

1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said:

Light rain and mid 50s now. 

lol the sun was still trying to come out here a few minutes ago

3 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

That’s a Japanese Kwanzan cherry. 
 

BRING ON THE RAIN!

why, the flowers will come down

we should have rain like once a week or once every 10 days.

Now I know why I loved the 90s so much lol

19 minutes ago, GaWx said:

1. Not at all but I’d still prefer to see further analysis in this case before assuming that, which would be awful if true. For example, is there some alternative potential explanation for WB CFS showing that ~4,000,000 sm area from N of Hawaii westward being BN when other CFS maps showed mainly AN there (i.e., WB colder) while at the same time WB CFS has solid AN just off N Amer vs NN to slightly BN on others (i.e., WB warmer)? If they were both either colder or warmer, I’d suspect algo bias. But in this case, one is colder and other is warmer. So, if not algo bias, what could it be besides intentional manip? Isn’t there possibly some other explanation?

2. You said he purposely posted SN maps in cm vs inches to make look snowier. I follow that. But I don’t follow how him posting maps in C vs F would make it look colder. Please explain.

In the scientific world, this has been done often out of greed, you should read the false reports coming out of the fossil fuel companies and also the sugar industry about their products.

22 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Could've been here early but I slept in

The sun is trying to break out even now.

4 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

November like sky..completely overcast day

it's cloudy now but it was partly to mostly sunny until noon.

17 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Yes. We have an AO-/NAO-

I thought climate change was supposed to get rid of these.... at least it doesn't happen in the winter anymore.

38 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

I wouldn’t put anything past him. Back during the winter, he purposely posted maps in degrees Celsius and snow in centimeters to make them seem colder and snowier hoping no one would notice. The man is twisted 

that's absolutely hilarious because I remember in one of his rants years ago he yelled about how much he hates the metric system lol

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

 

This morning has been absolutely awesome-- lots of sunshine!

I got lots of pictures in of my pink peony tree flowers before the rain takes down the flowers (hopefully not all of them.)

27 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Newark is on track for its first 90° during May 1-7 without at least 3 consecutive 80° days since 2000. So very unusual to get a 90° day not surrounded by 80° days this time of year. It shows how much resistance these warm ups have been getting from back doors and rain. 

Data for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
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Date	Max Temperature
2024-05-01	79
2024-05-02	90
2024-05-03	66

 

Data for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
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Date	Max Temperature
2018-05-01	83
2018-05-02	90
2018-05-03	94
2018-05-04	88
2018-05-05	76
2018-05-06	67
2018-05-07	75

 

Data for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
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Date	Max Temperature
2010-05-01	88
2010-05-02	90
2010-05-03	84
2010-05-04	83
2010-05-05	81
2010-05-06	80
2010-05-07	74

 

 for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
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Date	Max Temperature
2001-05-01	87
2001-05-02	92
2001-05-03	91
2001-05-04	94
2001-05-05	78
2001-05-06	64
2001-05-07	59

 

Data for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
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Date	Max Temperature
2000-05-01	69
2000-05-02	68
2000-05-03	64
2000-05-04	71
2000-05-05	87
2000-05-06	90
2000-05-07	94

do we still have that -NAO?

unbelievable how we dont get them in winter, but we get them now

4 hours ago, lee59 said:

My average high so far this month is below 70. Meanwhile Central Prk has hit 87 and Newark 90, two different worlds.

we hit 82 last Monday

1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said:

Chilly Yankees game but nice walkoff win

this team cannot score

they played a team who also can't score so eventually something had to give.

4 hours ago, SRRTA22 said:

In orbit????

yeah whatever it takes, I hate onshore winds, aim the turbine down and to the right, as the winds are aimed downward the compressional heating will make it nice and toasty

3 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I really think you belong in San Diego. 70 and sunny all the time, with the wind off the pacific low allergens too.

being that I love plants and am a horticulturalist, I’ll take the rain. 

My best year for growing things was 1993, which was one of our hottest summers on record. I grew sunflowers 8 feet tall, I grew green beans, I had a rose garden, squash, zucchini, tomatoes, cucumbers, cantaloupe, green peppers, carrots, potatoes, egg plant,  I even had a row of corn (my first time and last time growing corn).

I like watering, I don't need a lot of rain.

There is something very zen about just watering and admiring nature lol.  Hot weather plus cow manure made everything grow very tall and lush.  I love my 100 degree days and rain maybe once every 10 days.  

We don't need more than 40 inches of rain per year, anything more than that is excess.

58 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Record warmth and moisture across the world.

 

 

at some point some genius engineers will have to develop a way to funnel the excess moisture off into space.

1 minute ago, jm1220 said:

Yup, finally a few days of westerly flow hopefully. 

at this point I dont care if we have to put a huge turbine in orbit to blast westerly winds continuously....

4 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

.MONDAY...Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the morning. Not
as cool with highs in the mid 70s. Chance of rain 30 percent. 

.TUESDAY...Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 70s. 

.WEDNESDAY...Partly sunny. A chance of showers. Highs in the
upper 70s. Chance of rain 50 percent. 

.THURSDAY...Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers. Highs in the mid
70s. Chance of rain 50 percent.

this is so changeable that it changes from moment to moment.

The temperatures are fine, but it looks like Tuesday and Wednesday are better than the other days.

Why the hell is NY turning into a rain forest?

9 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Next back door front is already on the way-you can see it on radar coming into the twin forks.  

Definitely was a nice day when the sun came out, but it was a bummer that the summer temps were a bust. 

We need to get rid of this out of season blocking.

Why don't we get these fronts in the winter?

11 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Kudos to the NAM and other models that kept the summer air at bay. It’s a tough call east of the city whenever there’s a back door/SE wind pattern. GFS had the wind turning westerly which never happened here. It did turn nice once the clouds finally broke but the barrier beaches probably stayed at 60 or below. 

The sun came out just after 2 PM and it barely made a different in the temperatures which stayed in the 60s.  But it was really nice, not cold and not hot.  The skies were a very deep blue too.

1 hour ago, jm1220 said:

Cleared out but stuck at 70 likely due to the onshore wind. The warmer models also had us switching to a W wind and we’re still SE. That also caused the clouds to hang on. This’ll be as warm as we get until the wind changes. 

Yesterday was the warmer day here when we were in the low 70s, got stuck in the upper 60s today even with full sunshine after 2 PM there was no bump up in temperatures but it does look pretty with deep blue skies and zero clouds.

1 minute ago, SACRUS said:

 

85 now.  Clouds clinging to LI

 

what wind direction do you guys have? the forecast was for WNW winds and quickly clearing skies which obviously did not happen until now lol

5 minutes ago, psv88 said:

The park 79, Kennedy 63. Yikes. 

I wonder how much longer the sun has been out there.

It's upper 60s here

It's starting to clear out here, still some clouds around but more and more blue skies now.

7 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Especially 1991 with the record number on 90° days that spring. But the springs have been steadily getting earlier and warmer. It’s just that the warm up has occurred with more frequent spring -NAOs. The -NAOs can’t prevent the warming trend but they do shorten the warm ups when the -NAO is enough of a factor. So this spring has featured short 80°+ warm ups lasting a few days before the backdoors and onshore flow returns. 
 

Data for March 1, 1991 through May 31, 1991
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State	Name	Station Type	Number of Days Max Temperature >= 90
CT	DANBURY	COOP	11
NJ	CRANFORD	COOP	9
NJ	PLAINFIELD	COOP	8
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	8
NY	NY WESTERLEIGH STAT IS	COOP	8
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	6
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	6
NJ	LITTLE FALLS	COOP	6
NY	PORT JERVIS	COOP	5
NY	NEW YORK AVE V BROOKLYN	COOP	4
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	4
NY	MINEOLA	COOP	4
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	3
NJ	WANAQUE RAYMOND DAM	COOP	3
NY	WEST POINT	COOP	3
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	3

Thanks this makes so much sense and our shorter heatwaves now too.

Years like 1991, 1993, 1999 and 2002 we had very long multiple streaks of 7+ days with 90 or higher.  Besides the +NAO back then in the spring and summer it was also drier.

10 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, spring is one of the the only seasons  these -NAO patterns overperform. I am on the New England side of the backdoor with low clouds and mist. Like the cooler weather in general up here so far. Especially how quickly the temperatures fall due to much better radiational cooling after sunset.
 

New Haven      CLOUDY    55  54  96 S6        29.95F FOG

 

I feel like our springs in the 90s were much warmer

2 minutes ago, psv88 said:

Pesky cloud deck. Sunny extreme north shore and mid 60s, stuck at 61 here. 

the sky is really bright here but still no blue breaks, it's just a matter of time though.

as long as the sun comes out by 5 I'm happy.