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1 hour ago, MJO812 said:
NYC never radiates well
They will once we get rid of this polluted concrete. NYC has plans to make the city 30% green by 2030.
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19 minutes ago, bluewave said:
The main challenge for the area is that the last freeze date is similar to 1951-1980 but first 70s and 80s of spring are arriving much earlier. So this has lead to the damaging spring freezes across the northeast especially in the interior. The historic damaging freeze last May to our north matched the pattern of early season warmth causing blooms which were followed by a damaging hard freeze. We can understand that as the climate continues to warm spring will arrive earlier with the quicker blooms. But the last freeze date has not changed as much and needs some further investigation. My guess is that the much stronger spring blocking from the EPO to NAO regions recently is allowing the last freeze date to remain more constant relative to earlier eras.
I will use Newark as an example of this pattern that shows up to varying degrees across the region.
Newark
2010-2023
Last 32°…. 04-04…last 30s…04-21
First 70°…..03-07…first 80°….03-31
1951-1980
Last 32°…..04-04…..last 30s…04-22
First 70°.….03-26….first 80°…..04-22
But why is last freeze for Central Park being listed as March 30th? When I was growing up it was listed as April 10th....
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20 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:
JFK had 1.5" on April 19, 1983. The low temperature was 35°.
wow I wonder if that was the warmest low temperature at JFK at which 1" of snow has fallen?
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15 minutes ago, SACRUS said:
LGA : 4/17 : 32 (1980)
JFK: 4/16 : 32 (2014)Thats right we had a small accumulation of snow on 4/16/14!
I'm shocked it wasn't either 4/19 or 4/20 in 1983.... didn't JFK have about 2 inches of snow on that very late date? Tony, can you please check 4/19-4/20 in 1983 and see what the temperature was when it was snowing on those days? Thanks!
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17 minutes ago, Dark Star said:
Am Weather sounds familiar, but can't remember a thing about it? Comcast in Union County NJ removed the full time weather/radar about 10 years ago. Maybe with everyone owning a smart phone, it was no longer really necessary?
10 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:Is that what is was called? Was that on in the early 80s too? I remember watching some early morning weather show not on a major network. My first distinct memories of this are from April 1982.
18 minutes ago, Dark Star said:Am Weather sounds familiar, but can't remember a thing about it? Comcast in Union County NJ removed the full time weather/radar about 10 years ago. Maybe with everyone owning a smart phone, it was no longer really necessary?
Found it!
It was on until 1995-- ended just before the historic 1995-96 snowfall season (but at least it was here for 1993-94 when I remember watching it almost every morning!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.M._Weather
A.M. Weather[1] was an American weather news program that ran from October 30, 1978 to February 3, 1995. and was broadcast on PBS member stations throughout the United States. The 15-minute daily program, which aired fifteen minutes before or after the hour (depending on the station's scheduling of the program) and was produced by Maryland Public Television (MPT, or before 1984 the Maryland Center for Public Broadcasting), featured detailed forecasts presented by meteorologists from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
While many other media outlets embraced computer weather maps and graphics in the 1980s for weather forecasting use, A.M. Weather held back on fully embracing computer graphics until 1991, although the program did adapt to such graphics for satellite and radar maps in the late 1980s. The show's trademark yellow pointer was a mainstay of the program entire run.
Overview[edit]
The show's progression usually started with a satellite and radar segment, followed by the current conditions around the U.S. (vice versa in early years), then the forecast (especially in terms of temperatures and precipitation), followed by an aviation forecast (locations of MVFR and IFR, aircraft icing, turbulence and winds aloft) and ended (when necessary) with an inclement weather report, called "WeatherWatch" (the only time that the yellow pointer was not used).
The program aired its final edition on February 3, 1995; one of the reasons behind A.M. Weather's cancellation was that MPT wanted to expand on its morning business news enterprise with Bloomberg L.P.
Hosts included NOAA meteorologists Carl Weiss, Joan von Ahn and Wayne Winston, as well as H. Michael Mogil, Rich Warren, Dale Bryan and Barry Richwein. Other notable substitute hosts included: Regis Walter, Steve Zubrick (now the president of the National Weather Association), Gary Petti (a meteorologist with National Weather Service and National Environmental Satellite, Data, and Information Service (NESDIS), now retired), and George Lessens (now the chief meteorologist at WZZM in Grand Rapids, Michigan).
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7 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:
Is that what is was called? Was that on in the early 80s too? I remember watching some early morning weather show not on a major network. My first distinct memories of this are from April 1982.
Yep, and they gave flight info and it's the first time I ever heard of these terms! It was only on for 15 minutes a day in the 80s and 90s at 7:15 AM but I loved watching it and I remember looking at their forecast snow maps-- they were usually first onto a potential threat before the local news stations got it.
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8 minutes ago, SACRUS said:
Down to 42, now to 45 partly to mostly cloudy, clearing by early afternoon. Chilly today mainly in the 50s - low 60s. 30s or lower inland and upper 30s metro/coastal for what should be the coldest night till the fall. Warmer each day peaking Sun / Mon in the 80s to perhaps the first 90s in some spots. Step down next week to open May but still overall dry / warm till about the 4th. Then cooler beyond there for a period.
How much cooler are we talking about after May 4th, Tony? Not as cool as it is now or will be tonight?
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6 minutes ago, SACRUS said:
Looks like April 23rd at EWR (1933), NYC May 6 (1891)
Thanks Tony, what about LGA and JFK?
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14 minutes ago, bluewave said:
and also the clouds, which were pretty low here this morning.
Chris, what's the latest that we've seen 32 degrees at the park or city airports over the past 50 years or so? I'm curious about how we're seeing mid to upper 30s occurring later now than they used to, but our last freeze always seems to be in late March now.
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With the clouds it never got lower than the low 40s last night. Tonight should be the coldest night of the entire month though....
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17 minutes ago, snowman19 said:
Haven’t seen a drop here…
the sun is coming back out here now.
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11 minutes ago, Cfa said:
First rumbles of thunder for 2024. Light rain, heavy rain missing me to the west. I noticed the clouds starting to look pretty cumulonimbus about an hour ago and I thought I was wrong.
It was just well into the 70’s and now this.
we need the front to fully pass through and push this junk offshore completely
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6 minutes ago, Cfa said:
First rumbles of thunder for 2024. Light rain, heavy rain missing me to the west. I noticed the clouds starting to look pretty cumulonimbus about an hour ago and I thought I was wrong.
It was just well into the 70’s and now this.
didn't we have thunderstorms last week? we had rain and then the sun came out....
I think it was two Saturdays ago?
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14 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:
Tomatoes do very well in the heat, but I've found that peppers don't like it too hot. They often slow down during very hot periods in the summer. I usually get my best crop of peppers during the early fall when it has cooled off.
I'm looking through my pictures to see what year my garden did the best, it turns out it was 1993. But I was also using cow manure back then..... lol
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2 minutes ago, MANDA said:
When you find some tomato and pepper plants that are drought resistant let me know.
The cold is more of a problem than lack of rainfall for those-- we already have way too much rain.
I grow those myself-- peppers need hot weather to grow well.
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3 minutes ago, MANDA said:
ok. I will send away for some mail order cactus.
I like the label "drought resistant"
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16 minutes ago, Dark Star said:
I would think fear of flooding basements is a higher priority to planting vegetables for some?
Plus it's really hard to do anything with so much sogginess everywhere. It also promotes dangerous bugs who spread disease (like mosquitoes and ticks.)
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11 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:
Not wanting dry weather for weeks or a drought doesn't mean we have to have the other extreme in flooding. We're just talking about a normal 1"/week
or 1 inch every 10 days which is good.
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5 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:
We are living in the climate statistics equivalent of baseball's steroid era. Like 40 home runs used to be a pretty big deal, then you suddenly enter an era where someone like Brady Anderson goes from averaging 20-25 homers to knocking 50 out of the park. And three different players are routinely hitting 60-70 a season.
and these players are not actually better than the players from the earlier era because everyone is hitting like that. It's why normalizing this behavior isn't the right way to do things.
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9 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:
I would probably compare only to years before 2000 and toss all the recent years. So many months now don't even crack the top 10 warmest, that would have been like 4th or 5th warmest on record just 20 years ago. That means the same months that would have been highlighted on the NWS website as being incredibly warm just a couple decades ago now don't even get a second glance and, in fact, people think those months are relatively mild because they compare it to the fact that, for instance, 5 of the most recent 12 years have been warmer. And it's those recent 12 years that people remember and base their expectations on.
This happens all the time now. So many months look like no big deals, when they would have been considered very warm just a couple decades ago.
This is why the whole idea of "average" is just an illusion.
Another example is the extreme increase in rainfall and earlier last freezes since 2000.
I grew up in the 80s and 90s and I distinctly remember our last freeze was around April 10th and we used to average around 40 inches of rain a year. But now our last "average" freeze is considered to be March 30th and our "average" rainfall is now 50 inches of rain a year? How is this even allowed to happen? We really should end climate norms with 2000 and anything that occurred since then should be compared to what happened before.
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Chris we notice this ourselves with snow too--- snow that has survived many thaw freeze cycles is much more difficult to melt than new snow, which melts much more quickly. Older snow is much harder, denser and much more difficult to melt.
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10 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:
moderate shower here...
that was this morning now the sun is out
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13 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:
This might be an unusual post, but does it seem like there is a perception problem when it comes to climate? Like people just accept the change, and then suddenly use that as the benchmark for what's a normal climate for a region.
Like I feel that people think of Cleveland as this cold and snowy place, but the actual data would show over the last 10 years that the mean monthly and annual temperatures are on par with late 20th century northern/central Kentucky. Or Pittsburgh, where the mean annual and monthly temperature closely matches that of suburban Washington, D.C. metro or southern West Virginia, but inside the city, probably more on par with the lower elevations of eastern Tennessee or northwest Virginia.
blame 30 year normals for that
they should use the entire climate history of a region to make those calculations
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4 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:
imagine the power that could be generated if turbines were forced by tides...
wouldn't have to worry about whether the wind is blowing or the sun is shining... celestial mechanics --> tide cycle is always on, period.
Yes John! I read that the tides have the power to provide energy for two earths, not just the one we have!
Gravitational energy-- there is no greater force in the entire universe!
It's the ultimate underdog story-- the weakest of the four fundamental forces built the entire universe!
Think about the possibilities of creating micro black holes and how much energy we could harvest from those!
April 2024
in New York City Metro
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The important thing to remember about climate change, as you stated, is more extremes. That means both extremes in temperature as well as precipitation.
The motto should be to expect the unexpected.