LibertyBell

4 hours ago, SRRTA22 said:

In orbit????

yeah whatever it takes, I hate onshore winds, aim the turbine down and to the right, as the winds are aimed downward the compressional heating will make it nice and toasty

3 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I really think you belong in San Diego. 70 and sunny all the time, with the wind off the pacific low allergens too.

being that I love plants and am a horticulturalist, I’ll take the rain. 

My best year for growing things was 1993, which was one of our hottest summers on record. I grew sunflowers 8 feet tall, I grew green beans, I had a rose garden, squash, zucchini, tomatoes, cucumbers, cantaloupe, green peppers, carrots, potatoes, egg plant,  I even had a row of corn (my first time and last time growing corn).

I like watering, I don't need a lot of rain.

There is something very zen about just watering and admiring nature lol.  Hot weather plus cow manure made everything grow very tall and lush.  I love my 100 degree days and rain maybe once every 10 days.  

We don't need more than 40 inches of rain per year, anything more than that is excess.

58 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Record warmth and moisture across the world.

 

 

at some point some genius engineers will have to develop a way to funnel the excess moisture off into space.

1 minute ago, jm1220 said:

Yup, finally a few days of westerly flow hopefully. 

at this point I dont care if we have to put a huge turbine in orbit to blast westerly winds continuously....

4 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

.MONDAY...Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the morning. Not
as cool with highs in the mid 70s. Chance of rain 30 percent. 

.TUESDAY...Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 70s. 

.WEDNESDAY...Partly sunny. A chance of showers. Highs in the
upper 70s. Chance of rain 50 percent. 

.THURSDAY...Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers. Highs in the mid
70s. Chance of rain 50 percent.

this is so changeable that it changes from moment to moment.

The temperatures are fine, but it looks like Tuesday and Wednesday are better than the other days.

Why the hell is NY turning into a rain forest?

9 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Next back door front is already on the way-you can see it on radar coming into the twin forks.  

Definitely was a nice day when the sun came out, but it was a bummer that the summer temps were a bust. 

We need to get rid of this out of season blocking.

Why don't we get these fronts in the winter?

11 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Kudos to the NAM and other models that kept the summer air at bay. It’s a tough call east of the city whenever there’s a back door/SE wind pattern. GFS had the wind turning westerly which never happened here. It did turn nice once the clouds finally broke but the barrier beaches probably stayed at 60 or below. 

The sun came out just after 2 PM and it barely made a different in the temperatures which stayed in the 60s.  But it was really nice, not cold and not hot.  The skies were a very deep blue too.

1 hour ago, jm1220 said:

Cleared out but stuck at 70 likely due to the onshore wind. The warmer models also had us switching to a W wind and we’re still SE. That also caused the clouds to hang on. This’ll be as warm as we get until the wind changes. 

Yesterday was the warmer day here when we were in the low 70s, got stuck in the upper 60s today even with full sunshine after 2 PM there was no bump up in temperatures but it does look pretty with deep blue skies and zero clouds.

1 minute ago, SACRUS said:

 

85 now.  Clouds clinging to LI

 

what wind direction do you guys have? the forecast was for WNW winds and quickly clearing skies which obviously did not happen until now lol

5 minutes ago, psv88 said:

The park 79, Kennedy 63. Yikes. 

I wonder how much longer the sun has been out there.

It's upper 60s here

It's starting to clear out here, still some clouds around but more and more blue skies now.

7 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Especially 1991 with the record number on 90° days that spring. But the springs have been steadily getting earlier and warmer. It’s just that the warm up has occurred with more frequent spring -NAOs. The -NAOs can’t prevent the warming trend but they do shorten the warm ups when the -NAO is enough of a factor. So this spring has featured short 80°+ warm ups lasting a few days before the backdoors and onshore flow returns. 
 

Data for March 1, 1991 through May 31, 1991
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

State	Name	Station Type	Number of Days Max Temperature >= 90
CT	DANBURY	COOP	11
NJ	CRANFORD	COOP	9
NJ	PLAINFIELD	COOP	8
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	8
NY	NY WESTERLEIGH STAT IS	COOP	8
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	6
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	6
NJ	LITTLE FALLS	COOP	6
NY	PORT JERVIS	COOP	5
NY	NEW YORK AVE V BROOKLYN	COOP	4
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	4
NY	MINEOLA	COOP	4
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	3
NJ	WANAQUE RAYMOND DAM	COOP	3
NY	WEST POINT	COOP	3
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	3

Thanks this makes so much sense and our shorter heatwaves now too.

Years like 1991, 1993, 1999 and 2002 we had very long multiple streaks of 7+ days with 90 or higher.  Besides the +NAO back then in the spring and summer it was also drier.

10 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, spring is one of the the only seasons  these -NAO patterns overperform. I am on the New England side of the backdoor with low clouds and mist. Like the cooler weather in general up here so far. Especially how quickly the temperatures fall due to much better radiational cooling after sunset.
 

New Haven      CLOUDY    55  54  96 S6        29.95F FOG

 

I feel like our springs in the 90s were much warmer

2 minutes ago, psv88 said:

Pesky cloud deck. Sunny extreme north shore and mid 60s, stuck at 61 here. 

the sky is really bright here but still no blue breaks, it's just a matter of time though.

as long as the sun comes out by 5 I'm happy.

9 minutes ago, Cfa said:

It’s brightening up a bit near ISP, not as misty, but still socked in.

well west of you, it's still cloudy here.

Brightening up a little sure.

Just now, Stormlover74 said:

Wouldn't count on that 

Forecast for Monday-Wednesday behind the Sunday storm is for partly sunny skies and temps in the mid to upper 70s

22 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

There was a bit of a model war yesterday between the 3k NAM that had a more cloudy/backdoor-y look today and GFS which shot everyone west of the William Floyd to 80. Looks like Upton lowered my point/click high for the day. It’ll be a day to day struggle as long as we’re in this pattern. 

Next week will be more sunny

50 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, the easterly flow days in the mix will feel even cooler especially near the shore with the cold pool that has developed to our east.

 

whats causing this cold pool? I thought the waters were much warmer than normal everywhere?

8 minutes ago, ForestHillWx said:

Earthquake was stronger than the aftershocks we had been getting. Lasted about 5 seconds. 

This was the closest to my house yet. 

you felt it? I don't feel anything below 3, 2.6 wasn't enough to do anything to me.

54 minutes ago, JetsPens87 said:

It's been pretty dry for almost 3 weeks now lol...

I guess my idea of dry is a lot of sunshine every day too lol

3 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I really hope I get to experience a VEI 7 in my lifetime. Purely from a meteorological perspective. Too much to write in regards to how incredible that would be in the face of global warming. 

Maybe for darker lunar eclipses, but as far as volcanoes influencing the climate, they've all been a colossal disappointment.

I was around for El Chichon and it didn't do anything for our snowfall totals and neither did Pinatubo.

19 minutes ago, Rtd208 said:

The mid to long range is looking pretty wet and active so it looks like there should be plenty of chances for rain/storms moving forward with around normal temps for the first half of May.

hmmm everyone has been saying we're getting into a dry pattern lol-- at least it looks dry after the weekend rain with temps in the mid to upper 70s

29 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Clouds broke for some sunshine today in the New York City area where the monthly mean temperature finished at 55.7° (2.0° above normal) after a high temperature of 66°. Farther south, Atlantic City and Philadelphia saw the mercury again reach the 80s. Some showers or perhaps thundershowers are possible tonight but drier weather should return tomorrow.

May should see the first week wind up somewhat warmer than normal, even as there is considerable variability in the daily temperatures. Overall, May looks to wind up on the warm side of normal.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was 0.0°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +0.8°C for the week centered around April 24. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.23°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.98°C. The ongoing basinwide El Niño event is fading. Neutral conditions could develop later in the spring.

The SOI was -3.82 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -1.058 today.

 

Don what's causing all this variability? Is the SE Ridge not strong enough to take over?

6 minutes ago, Tatamy said:

We just did get pounded.  We had a spectacular lightning storm along with a quick 0.65” of rain.  Looks like the storms are weakening some as they move into the more stable atmospheric conditions further east across NJ.

 I was also watching that hail shown above on radar.  I am certain that there was even larger sized hail with this feature up near Jim Thorpe.

I hope none of my plants got damaged.  I'm headed out to the Poconos tomorrow morning.

It's been in the 80s the last couple of days there-- you guys who like storms so much-- you need this kind of heat to get big storms.

4 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Models had it staying cloudy so lower temps. It’s also a SE not NE wind which helps. 

why do they rely on models so much? what happened to real meteorology?