Frog Town

Some serious cold starting to show up in the long range. Are teleconnections supporting this?? I thought this was supposed to stay in the NW and Alaska.

Living in Toledo, the most I've ever seen in 45 years was 13". The wind made a it seem like less.

Will never happen in my life time. Something like that happened in the early 1900's. I saw pics of the Railroad that takes that route from Toledo to Chicago.

Are you serious, Clark? What part of the sub does is putter out on??

It's kind of like watching Game of Thrones over and over again. Thinking something different is gonna happen

Honestly, this one just feels better. I'd be willing to bet that the current area of modeled snow will only shift 100 miles either way and gets a good portion of the sub!

No Kidding. I'd almost rather just here the meteorologists interpretation of them, probably like it was 25 years ago. More reading, less looking.

It's like women having kids. After the experience, why do it again. It's a good thing they do though.

My loss is your gain. I'm cool with it

Things definitely looking better for the SE MI area on the latest models. What did the 12Z Euro show?

Honestly, HRRR isn't terrible considering the confluence east of Lake Mi. Perhaps we'll get this to last a little longer through the mid part of the sub

What would delay the weakening? In other words, what would we need to see that could keep this going through the sub??

Does the NAM pick on Orthographic Lift?? Why do you suppose it's boosts totals in SE MI?? There is a Glacial Ridge in the spot.....Curious.

You blame them though?

Still worlds away from other guidance. Does nicely for those in the Northern 1/3 of IL/IN/OH

That's right, thank you for remembering and responding. It was a very tight gradient as I recall.

If I recall correctly, the Northwest portion of Ohio(yes, my backyard) typically stays snow in these set-ups. At least during La Nina.

It is pound town in Toledo right now. It's been snowing for 45 minutes and we already have double the dusting they were calling for. Is this thing coming in more amped??

It'll be a Movie in a couple years

Seriously! I teach middle school and would like at least one day off of this crap! Grow Up.

We're not the only ones scratching our heads.... IWX Office: For early next week, attention will then turn to a progressive pattern aloft, with the opportunity for better moisture return into our area. This would signal mild temperatures owing to southwesterly flow, and possibly a rain event as a surface low tracks through the Midwest. There is a huge spread in temperature solutions on Sunday and Monday that will need to be addressed going forward; aimed for a middle ground at this time. Where. Is. Winter?! &&

Now that just about everyone has thrown in the towel, we will finally see a change, maybe. This is also about the same time last year that I remember people saying ""Maybe the deck finally shuffles next Winter"

I keep hearing from many reputable Meteorologists that this is an extremely complicated pattern. It reminds me of a theory I learned back in college called the Chaos Theory! As it relates to Weather, there are just so many variables, especially in this pattern, that make it almost impossible to forecast for than a couple days out. It obviously is leading to many frustrations, and rightfully so. Hang in there everyone! Hopefully mother nature shows her hand soon.

I think I'm suffering from zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz fatigue. Anyone else feeling this?

It's all in the eye of the beer-holder.