CapturedNature

I was noticing that myself looking at some hillsides even in SNE. You can spot a green hue difference between trees. It was more noticeable above 1500' in the Berkshires on I-90 but definitely there. Maybe we're in for a long foliage season...

I respectfully disagree about people taking extremes on climate change. There's the bury your head types and then there's the water world/Massachusetts will be like the tropics in a 100 years if we don't do anything types. I see these extremes almost every day on other forums and I think it's why nothing gets done anymore. Everyone takes an extreme perspective.

I agree with the language comment. I've never understood the need for people to have to interject "colorful adjectives" in normal speech. It's a free world though...

Not for me. Gloria was way more impactful in Connecticut than Bob was. I only mentioned Bob because it is the last hurricane to make landfall in New England. There was a lot more damage here from Gloria than Bob but I did have way more rain from Bob. The thing I've never understood is the dismissive attitude people give to category 1 hurricanes or even tropical storms. I stood atop Mount Washington in 75MPH winds and the one thing I remember thinking was "So this is a category 1 hurricane?" and thinking I would never think the lessor of one again. It seems like everyone just likes to focus on the extremes whether it's weather, climate change or politics. All extreme, all the time.

Yeah, I was just thinking about that. We had 6 in the 22 years between 1938 and 1960 and a scattering until Bob in 1991 but nothing since then. It's interesting that just as the frequency of snow storms increased in 1992 we haven't had a landfalling hurricane. Is there a correlation?

Sounds like a prediction like calling for HHH from a certain date "and beyond" as if we know exactly what will happen between now and December and then call for something exciting to track in December. Who knows? Perhaps December will be boring..

I can't imagine what people would do/say if we went through another 1938-1960 stretch. There's still visible scars to trees from that storm. Walk through a mature forest and look for trees that are at least 100 years old and you'll notice a lot of them have Y's in them about half way up. A forester friend told me that was a remnant of the 38 hurricane because it snapped off the tops of so many trees. Growing up and still to this day there are old logging paths in the woods around here that were used to remove so much of the fallen timber.

I used to be one of those people that chased storms but I stopped about 20 years ago after I became a victim and a drain on local resources. I felt like crap being able to leave people behind to live through the aftermath misery. For several days while I was there and unable to leave I felt like an unnecessary drain on limited resources. I believe in personal freedom and he's welcome to do what he chooses but I couldn't live with myself just showing up and leaving. I'm glad he was able to help some folks while he was there.

Tell him that the farmers almanac is calling for a "polar coaster".

I'm glad that breweries that make a maple beer actually use maple syrup. It's become one of my specialties...

Yesterday while I was stopped in construction I grabbed this lousy pic of one of the maples in our area that is showing some color on its tips. There's others and considering the changes coming to the New England landscape over the next 8 weeks or so I thought I would start the thread for this years foliage season.

I recalling feeling the same way about December '92, particularly when the "Blizzard of '93" came on it's heels. It was such a turning point. Too bad I left the weather business within a couple of years.

Well said. There were some good seasons like 87 or 88 but the 3 years that followed were putrid (save December 1989).

Yeah, that's good data. I keep track of the total numbers greater than a certain threshold but I don't break it down by season. I just like to know how many events I have greater than 1" or greater than 6" or greater than 10" for example. I like the break down in Will's. Speaking of the data, I like how there are two seasons in the 80s with no events greater than 6". I'm glad I was in High school and college. I can't imagine being a little kid.

I've seen the same amount up here. I even picked one up on one of my game cams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogJNifqz1oI&t=283s

I averaged 10.2". I was honestly expecting a couple inches less so it's nice to have a positive bust and a double digit storm. Congrats to the folks out east!

I guess most co-ops these days do that but when I was a co-op observer I always measured at the end of the snowfall. I believe the guy in Staffordville does that but some of his totals baffle me as too high since we are so closer. I honestly feel like his gets snow blown off the lake when that happens...lol. Your point about a homogeneous record is why I did not support the adoption of the method but for those that have been doing it for nearly 20 years should continue to do so. For me personally, I stuck with the old method for just such as reason.

That's the same argument I recall back in the 90s when this "standard" came into being. Many of us argued that it would be impossible to compare systems from the past due to different measuring standards. I, for one, started keeping records with the current standard and never adopted sweeping and measuring every 6 hours specifically so I could compare one storm with another. Likewise, I can compare with anyone else that measures at the end of snowfall. Personally, I think it should never have been implemented but that ship has long sailed and we have a mix now.

I think you're misunderstanding my questioning. The forecast was not good for the valley and hasn't been for the past several storms. I also don't think anyone is cheating if they are measuring the same way they have for 30+ years. I think that's the only way that you can compare one storm to another and one measurement to another. That's what I'm questioning so I can compare one measurement with another. The "on the ground" debate is another story for another thread.

yeah, that's what I was thinking when I saw the 2.5" amounts. They just seem low. I measured 10.2" a couple of hours ago. That 13" seems high but technically he is a little further east than I am and that band was so close it's possible. Looks like a couple more inches since then and it's snowing nicely. I wonder how much we'll pick up overnight....

I'm wondering how some of those really low totals in the valley were measured. I know they got less snow but I had a wide variety of measurements whether I measured on pavement, cement, grass, car, picnic table, truck bed or on my snowboard. My "official" spot is my snow board and that's what goes in the record but I also got much lower readings on any of the ground measurements so I'm wondering if some of those measurements reflect measurements on the ground as opposed to a board? Nice light snow now...hopefully add some more overnight.

Just under 5" here. It's probably twice that just east of me but I'll take what I can get. Been snowing nicely all day.

It affected western New England too. As you climbed west of the CT River Valley the snow picked up. I know the pike was mess just west of Westfield and Norfolk, CT had close to a foot. Even here the rain was mixed with snow for a good portion of the day. Outside of the early nature of the storm, the fact that there was also a late April event meant there was a very short window between the last snowfall and the first one.

I just found out that my brother is going to be flight from NYC to LA during the eclipse. He's wondering what side of the plane he should be on for the best view. Unfortunately because of the timing of the flight I don't think he will ever be in the totality line. When I look at the flight path, it looks like the path of totality will be north of his flight path but is looking to the north the best side to be on or is it on the south side so you could see the sun or am I wrong about that? I'm hoping the collective here can give me some advice to pass on to him. I'm attaching his flight path along with the eclipse map. Note that his flight leaves about 10AM ET and will be crossing the totality line around 10:30-11 CT I'm guessing.

BDL may have had only 1.38" but like I said, places on the eastern edge of the valley had 1" more. I posted this earlier this year but I put up a video that my brother and I shot during the storm driving from Stafford up to Union and then on to Worcester, Hull and Boston before returning. I measured around 24" in Union in the morning and when we returned there was about 30". You can also see the transition from snow to rain and the wave action in Hull.