CapturedNature

I've had that same thought with my son going out into the woods. I usually put on bug spray anyway because I find the buggers annoying, especially three cornered (deer) flies. Growing up I never wore a seat belt but when I was 16 or 18 I was required to do so. Now I don't even think about it. I've never gotten in an accident and statistically most people would be fine without one. However, I do like the extra insurance. I kind of view bug spray the same way. It's almost useless but then there's that .0000001% chance. Do I want to take that chance when I have something that takes a couple of seconds that mitigates it? It also helps against ticks and our woods are crawling with them so it's an added policy.

When I was in my teens I wanted to move to that part of Montana for some reason. I remember having a discussion about places and my friend was insistent that I move east of the divide. We looked at a map together and Babb was the place we picked. Years later I visited that small town but obviously never moved there. I should've listened to my younger self...

The enemy is not capitalism. In fact, that's where the money is that is needed to address climate change. Climate change shouldn't be a political pawn to achieve ones political goals. You're going to need the capital that capitalism generates to invest in sequestration or nuclear power. Provide enough incentive and the market will provide everything in a rapid time frame. Politicize it and you have what we currently have.

Just in time for the peak of hurricane season.

I guess the top 5 impactful events that I have witnessed would be (in no particular order): December 1992 Storm (got to see deep snow to crashing waves after years no big storms) December 1989 Cold (coldest weather I've ever seen) January 1998 Ice Storm (Most devastation and longevity I've ever witnessed) June 1, 2011 Tornado (Got to witness the aftermath first hand) January 2011 Snow (multiple storms dropped a seasons worth of snow on my house in less than a month) Honorable mentions would be the October 2011 Storm, the 1972 Ice Storm (I think that help shape my interest in weather events) and the cold months of January 1994 & February 2015. I gave the nod to December 1989 because I was at Lyndon and the elevation and northern latitude enhanced the cold for me. I don't know that I'll experience a month like that again. Lots of good memories here by all!

I respectfully disagree about people taking extremes on climate change. There's the bury your head types and then there's the water world/Massachusetts will be like the tropics in a 100 years if we don't do anything types. I see these extremes almost every day on other forums and I think it's why nothing gets done anymore. Everyone takes an extreme perspective.

I agree with the language comment. I've never understood the need for people to have to interject "colorful adjectives" in normal speech. It's a free world though...

Not for me. Gloria was way more impactful in Connecticut than Bob was. I only mentioned Bob because it is the last hurricane to make landfall in New England. There was a lot more damage here from Gloria than Bob but I did have way more rain from Bob. The thing I've never understood is the dismissive attitude people give to category 1 hurricanes or even tropical storms. I stood atop Mount Washington in 75MPH winds and the one thing I remember thinking was "So this is a category 1 hurricane?" and thinking I would never think the lessor of one again. It seems like everyone just likes to focus on the extremes whether it's weather, climate change or politics. All extreme, all the time.

Yeah, I was just thinking about that. We had 6 in the 22 years between 1938 and 1960 and a scattering until Bob in 1991 but nothing since then. It's interesting that just as the frequency of snow storms increased in 1992 we haven't had a landfalling hurricane. Is there a correlation?

I can't imagine what people would do/say if we went through another 1938-1960 stretch. There's still visible scars to trees from that storm. Walk through a mature forest and look for trees that are at least 100 years old and you'll notice a lot of them have Y's in them about half way up. A forester friend told me that was a remnant of the 38 hurricane because it snapped off the tops of so many trees. Growing up and still to this day there are old logging paths in the woods around here that were used to remove so much of the fallen timber.

I used to be one of those people that chased storms but I stopped about 20 years ago after I became a victim and a drain on local resources. I felt like crap being able to leave people behind to live through the aftermath misery. For several days while I was there and unable to leave I felt like an unnecessary drain on limited resources. I believe in personal freedom and he's welcome to do what he chooses but I couldn't live with myself just showing up and leaving. I'm glad he was able to help some folks while he was there.

I've seen the same amount up here. I even picked one up on one of my game cams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogJNifqz1oI&t=283s

I averaged 10.2". I was honestly expecting a couple inches less so it's nice to have a positive bust and a double digit storm. Congrats to the folks out east!

I guess most co-ops these days do that but when I was a co-op observer I always measured at the end of the snowfall. I believe the guy in Staffordville does that but some of his totals baffle me as too high since we are so closer. I honestly feel like his gets snow blown off the lake when that happens...lol. Your point about a homogeneous record is why I did not support the adoption of the method but for those that have been doing it for nearly 20 years should continue to do so. For me personally, I stuck with the old method for just such as reason.

That's the same argument I recall back in the 90s when this "standard" came into being. Many of us argued that it would be impossible to compare systems from the past due to different measuring standards. I, for one, started keeping records with the current standard and never adopted sweeping and measuring every 6 hours specifically so I could compare one storm with another. Likewise, I can compare with anyone else that measures at the end of snowfall. Personally, I think it should never have been implemented but that ship has long sailed and we have a mix now.

I think you're misunderstanding my questioning. The forecast was not good for the valley and hasn't been for the past several storms. I also don't think anyone is cheating if they are measuring the same way they have for 30+ years. I think that's the only way that you can compare one storm to another and one measurement to another. That's what I'm questioning so I can compare one measurement with another. The "on the ground" debate is another story for another thread.

yeah, that's what I was thinking when I saw the 2.5" amounts. They just seem low. I measured 10.2" a couple of hours ago. That 13" seems high but technically he is a little further east than I am and that band was so close it's possible. Looks like a couple more inches since then and it's snowing nicely. I wonder how much we'll pick up overnight....

I'm wondering how some of those really low totals in the valley were measured. I know they got less snow but I had a wide variety of measurements whether I measured on pavement, cement, grass, car, picnic table, truck bed or on my snowboard. My "official" spot is my snow board and that's what goes in the record but I also got much lower readings on any of the ground measurements so I'm wondering if some of those measurements reflect measurements on the ground as opposed to a board? Nice light snow now...hopefully add some more overnight.

Just under 5" here. It's probably twice that just east of me but I'll take what I can get. Been snowing nicely all day.

It affected western New England too. As you climbed west of the CT River Valley the snow picked up. I know the pike was mess just west of Westfield and Norfolk, CT had close to a foot. Even here the rain was mixed with snow for a good portion of the day. Outside of the early nature of the storm, the fact that there was also a late April event meant there was a very short window between the last snowfall and the first one.

I just found out that my brother is going to be flight from NYC to LA during the eclipse. He's wondering what side of the plane he should be on for the best view. Unfortunately because of the timing of the flight I don't think he will ever be in the totality line. When I look at the flight path, it looks like the path of totality will be north of his flight path but is looking to the north the best side to be on or is it on the south side so you could see the sun or am I wrong about that? I'm hoping the collective here can give me some advice to pass on to him. I'm attaching his flight path along with the eclipse map. Note that his flight leaves about 10AM ET and will be crossing the totality line around 10:30-11 CT I'm guessing.

BDL may have had only 1.38" but like I said, places on the eastern edge of the valley had 1" more. I posted this earlier this year but I put up a video that my brother and I shot during the storm driving from Stafford up to Union and then on to Worcester, Hull and Boston before returning. I measured around 24" in Union in the morning and when we returned there was about 30". You can also see the transition from snow to rain and the wave action in Hull.

I can assure you that it was raining in the valley. It literally went from rain to a foot+ in about a mile as the crow flies and 800' up. One of the sharpest cutoff's I've ever seen. At my parents house in the valley we had 2.45" of QPF and 3.2" of snow. Stafford Springs (next town over and elevated) had a little over 3" of QPF. Like I said, snow ranged from around a foot in the lowest places to close to 30" in the highest.

My parents in in the valley portion of Somers only had about 3". The hills above them had over a foot....very sharp cutoff. Union had over 30" so that map is a little off. Elevation definitely played a role around here.

I had an early morning snow shower that left .1" and then sleet from 2-4PM but snow after that till about 3AM. I had 6.6". A lot of wind with that one too.