North Balti Zen

I see we’ve reached the part of the snow drought where Weather53 and hoff lock horns.

I can’t believe someone did a drive-by and said they don’t see a lot of upper air maps posted in this thread.

It's fun how each digital run yielding "it's different" observations always ends with "but still manages to miss us" follow-ups... Soon we will have the "if you just change this feature and this feature and this feature we would be close" postings...

It wasn't a good year, the "surprise" January storm that was 10-12" from DC West petered out up here around 5 inches, and we came up too north or south to really cash in on every other system. Baltimore proper has been a bit of snow loser in the area since it cashed all its chips in four years ago in the January 2016 storm/blizzard thing.

That's every day. A quick review of the last two pages in the long range thread tells me my bumping of the futility thread was well timed.

I mean, that was last year. And the year before. And the year before that. It stops being funny at some point, and is just...the new normal.

Seriously, see it.

He says that on June 1, too.

Not for nothing, but Galaxy Quest is probably one of the best movies ever made.

Maybe stop naming phantoms?

Agreed - the 2-4 inch deals have been harder and harder to come by in the ten years I have been in the area - but looking at the longer record , that seems to comport with your memory from the 80s and 90s for this part of the area. Dovetails with @psuhoffman obs/thoughts in another thread wondering if the global climate trends are taking those events away from parts of the area.

That means two of the top five worst snowfall seasons for BWI location have happened in the last decade. It has truly been huge boom or massive bust for BWI/Baltimore City area since I got here in 2009 - probably why I am constantly hunting big storms - the ones on the margins don't do much for this area of late...

I will go with you - that winter had some screwy measurements for having so little have fallen. If that is accurate, the correct top five worst snowfall years for the reporting locations are as follows: Here's where we are currently on 1/22/20: BWI: 1.8"/DCA: 0.6"/IAD: 2.9" These are the seasonal futility numbers to keep in mind as this horror show continues: BWI: .7 - '49/'50 1.2 - '72/'73 1.8 - 2011/12 2.3 - 2001/02 3.0 - 2016/2017 DCA .1 - '97/'98 .1 - '72/'73 2.0 - 2011/12 2.2 - '75/'76 2.5 - '30/'31 Dulles: 2.2 - '72/'73 2.6 - 2001/02 3.7 - 2011/12 4.4 - '80/'81 5.9 - '97/'98

Did that number get adjusted after 3/14/17? There was back and forth at the time about how much fell that day.

2016/17 was BAD (but not quite historic with the March 14, 2017 snow ruining the run at placing each airport on the list except for a 5th place for BWI) - that year ended up BWI 3.0"/DCA 3.4"/IAD 7.3" . Prior to that mid-March "save" in 2017 BWI had 1", DCA had 1.7" and Dulles also had 1.7".

BUMP: Here's where we are currently on 1/21/20: BWI: 1.8"/DCA: 0.6"/IAD: 2.9" These are the seasonal futility numbers to keep in mind as this horror show continues: BWI: .7 - '49/'50 1.2 - '72/'73 1.8 - 2011/12 2.3 - 2001/02 3.0 - 2016/2017 DCA .1 - '97/'98 .1 - '72/'73 2.0 - 2011/12 2.2 - '75/'76 2.5 - '30/'31 Dulles: 2.2 - '72/'73 2.6 - 2001/02 3.7 - 2011/12 4.4 - '80/'81 5.9 - '97/'98

20 - that caught me off-guard - wasn't paying attention to the forecast lows. Cold.

That’s literally not his politics or who he is.

His area and most of the balt city area did not do all that well last year - we’ve kinda gotten the wrong end of a lot of systems since January 2016. Which might make sense from a payback view as we maxed out in that storm and it feels like payback has been underway for awhile.

nice pics psu. Looks about same as what I found north of Lititz. Even up there it didn’t really cash in.

well done - a unicorn to keep an eye on and I made final table in perryville and chopped the 2:00 tournament. You all get gold stars for today.

I stand by my previous mersky observation.

The drive to the wildlife management area north of Lititz, PA was worth it. Got to walk with my dog about a mile and a half on a trail - no one around so she was able to lope along in the snow offleash and then the snowfall resumed as we ended the walk and it’s snowing now as I get lunch in Lancaster. at least I saw and spent some time in snow today, so worth the chase even if only an inch or two on the ground up here so far.

Mersky kinda sucks.

One thing so far in this rather yet again disappointing winter, I seem to recall the seasonal outlooks from the various long range modeling showing it at last average in terms of precip if not above average, and more than a little hinting at southern stream moisture being available. To this point, that is not how this has played out at all, I don't believe. And we certainly have not seen a lot of juiced up storms miss us up the coast or very many juiced up monsters cutting to our west and threatening to become 50/50 lows for follow-up systems. Mostly it has been pretty quiet in terms of organized storm activity from my perception.