North Balti Zen

It really is just a hunch. Enough of a divergence in the Euro op from the GFS that I am guessing the OP is either on its own or there is a significant cluster that are more like the GFS. I, obviously, could be totally off base. Guessing ensembles isn't part of my wizardry skillset...

I bet the EPS are actually fine and the OP an outlier.

If the system is Saturday and the snow within 150 miles - that may be a chase.

This game is DRUNK.

I’m just going with it. Selected ribeyes for the grill.

I’m firing up the grill - gonna do steaks.

Maybe? then again, Tennessee just beat KC a few weeks back in Missouri. If KC wins today, that game isn’t a walkover...

This. See under - “all of last winter” during the epic pattern that never arrived.

lol - I was making a similar reference in the banter thread

Not so random phrase in my head based on main thread: ”it’s a meteorological impossibility!”

Cold/dry blows. warm/wet blows. cold/wet is where it’s at.

Here's a question that always comes up when I read the long range cold disco - I am never quite sure what each person is chasing. I mean, we simply need "cold enough" air masses to support big storms, we don't need bay freezing cold at all (in fact, I don't want that as it almost always murders snow chances due to suppression). Hard to tell when reading the discos if people complaining about mixed signals for cold are talking about DEEP cold or just cold enough. Get some cold air nearby and an active southern stream and let's see what happens...

@Steve25For Balt City neighborhoods in 2013/14 - I was in Hamilton neighborhood that winter and had 46" - poster NW Balt (Pikesville area) had 57. Ravensrule (near poster NW Balt reported 64"). In 2014/15 I moved to where I currently am in North Baltimore and had 30 inches, poster NW Balt had 33. I got those from the season snow totals threads for those years on this forum.

If you go find the seasonal totals thread from this forum for these years and find my last post you will be able to see how Baltimore (not downtown) made out. They were good years.

Moving this over to banter to add-on as I don't want to interrupt (checks notes) yet another snow obs from areas that are (checks notes again) NOT where I currently am... @H2O wrote... I cannot agree with this enough. I've been in the Baltimore urban heat island area since 2009. I work downtown (maybe no feet of elevation) and from 2009 - 2014 lived in the Hamilton neighborhood (maybe 300 feet of elevation) and from 2014 - present live in the Roland Park/Hopkins/Hampden juncture (about 458 feet of elevation). Within my working memory, it has gotten REALLY hard to score anything of note in the city center in marginal temp set-ups and still difficult at the my current elevation to score like others do in marginal set-ups. Now, some of this is just the snow climate - there's a reason that Parkton averages more than Towson than averages more than downtown Baltimore and so forth. But my guess is that there is now a chipping away at the margins due to...more urban heat? climate shifting? dunno? than there used to be. I know that the March snows that have made many so very happy the last few years have been frustrating inside 695 - hard to get going, hard to sustain rates. Like yesterday - which was hard to get going. There is no question that inside 495 and 695 can and do very well in legit storms. But I have decided that much of the board tension (to the extent there is tension) with respect to snow climate, expectations, and the like, comes down to what kind of storms that people need to really see snow fall and accumulate well. For those of us inside 495 and 695 in particular, we really have to become default big game hunters. The "big ones", with good arctic air in place, copious moisture, and forecasts of 6+ inches give us the wiggle room to deal with all the temp, boundary layer, dew point, UHI and other issues we need to overcome to really accumulate. When I big game hunt, it is because I need to see those kinds of ingredients available for a storm to know that we have a better than even chance of overcoming the handicaps of living in the UHI areas. Now, again, I know (and agree!) that historically it is going to be slightly harder to score events in these areas (even pre-UHI) - but my working thesis is that it is even harder now on the margins and that a lot of marginal events are really too marginal for inside the beltways for whatever reason than they used to be. It is why the "we can score in March" isn't necessarily that comforting for some of us (particularly as we cross past March 10th or so). In any event, just wanted to high five h20's observation. And note that temp, sun, and other worries can be legit for many of us depending on the set-up. I'm not gonna worry about sun with an arctic high near-by, a storm approaching and temps at 35. But in events like yesterday? Where every degree matters and there isn't an obvious cold air source around? Morning sun was not so good for my zip code(s)...

North Balt City: 12/11 -- T 12/16 - .5" 1/7 - 1.5" 2019/20 --- Season total - 2.0"

That confirms my 1.5” measurement in Roland Park area.

Will call it a hard earned 1.5” here after several measurements. Nice to squeeze this in before the next ten days.

Legit gorgeous snowfall here as the last bit moves through - gonna be over an inch easily.

It still boggles my mind the differences from the city centers to just a few miles away even.

Just back from a walk with the pup and my better half. Gorgeous out - made it to the Friends School of Baltimore fields and it looks like about an inch out there - really fortunate to pull this event off.

It dropped 11 degrees in a few miles. I will assume the warm air was rapidly exiting at that point downtown, but, still, it was ridiculous.

That was hilarious. Snowing out my window 20 floors up. Exited the bldg and pouring rain ground level. 43 in the car as I left downtown. 2.4 miles out of city center urban heat hell and it is 32 in my neighborhood and snowing hard with the ground white. urban heat island hell is unreal.

Snow finally arrived downtown Balt. Looking forward to clearing out and heading 3 miles north for the better in terms of snow.

Rain in downtown Balt City.