Maestrobjwa

I disagree. The situation is different from before...they fired Billick back in 2007 when things got too bad. To me, things have never gotten THIS bad under Harbaugh--the failures are usually in the playoffs not this early in the season. This feels like it's leading to a "breaking point" moment; I have never seen players so defeated and looking like they've given up on the coaching before. I think this is different.

What's stopping them from firing him? See, my theory is...they didn't want him going into this season as a lame duck coach. So they extend him just so that doesn't happen--but there is absolutely nothing stopping them from eating the rest of the contract and firing him.

I cannot remember the last time I turned off a Ravens game this early, smh. Yep...coaching change on the horizon. I think 2026 is gonna be much better than 2025!

You're still gonna watch, aren't you?

They said a week or two ago that the calf injury was not recovering as fast as they hoped, and the said last week that he was still rehabing. Sounds like just one of those things... And btw our fanbase lost the right to complain about few injury updates after Lamar 2022, lol On that I agree with Harbs: I ain't telling y'all NOTHIN'

Wonder if he's gonna apologize for the "spoiled" comment, lol (I mean I happen to agree with him but it was really, really bad timing)

Biscotti values continuity...unfortunately to a fault, smh I mean yeah I know we were technically winning and we had reached the AFC championship, but...oy. (I kinda feel like that did nothing but buy Harbs more time. Like getting deep in the playoffs that year actually made that decision more difficult, smh I'm starting to wish we hadn't gotten that deep, lol

Well you mentioned biases good sir--and believe it or not I'm genuinely curious And have I ever attacked you personally? I mean me ribbing ya a bit on this isn't serious, I promise

And what would you say your bias is?

And when they post I often wonder whether they're secretly giddy in posting bad news because of being warministas...but we haven't had a promising winter outlook in years, so when the year comes when we finally do, and it does produce, I'm interested to see how they post then, lol

Something tells me he will be activated next week. Oh boy...tough times in the flock AND Birdland, lol

For all of Harbaugh's flaws...throughout his tenure he has always had this team ready play in primetime at home. They are always juiced up! But before tonight we had a grand total of two losses in 17 years years. But tonight felt different...they didn't have that edge they usually do in these games. If Harbaugh is losing that ability too...then it's definitely time to retire.

Unfortunately good call about the game tonight (and strangely I felt like your feeling about the game might be correct but didn't wanna believe it, lol).

Just move through the season with an eye on 2026--it'll be much easier I promise, lol (now obviously the firing Harbaugh variable is what that is contingent on though)

Mitchell would not have been effective tonight--not with the way our OL was playing. If king Henry wasn't finding holes why would Mitchell?

Welp, we about to be 1-3 because you KNOW we aren't beating KC last week!

2026 here we come!

A loss would bring up an interesting yet unfortunate scenario...our winning percentage is very good after a loss...In fact with Lamar starting I think we've only lost b2b maybe twice. BUT...we have KC next week and we gotta play there where Lamar has never won, lol But I hear ya though...ya start wondering about the law of averages, lol But home primetime losses in the all black uniforms are even more rare (I think we have like 1, lol). So maybe we'll be okay

I think you meand to post this in the other thread

Ha...sentence about proofreading wasn't proofread

Hey remember what I showed ya about Peyton Manning and Lamar in the playoffs? Well, if we want Harbaugh out we gotta root for that trend to continue. Manning went one and done in Year 8 to fall to 3-6 in the playoffs...and such a result this year would give Lamar an identical record...and maybe a new coach leads to a Lamar SB ring in year 9?

Well then we agree he didn't lie and really did have a cramp...people can take it as an excuse or whatever that's cool. I can understand that. Carrying on

I've already halfway moved forward to 2026. I think we recover and win a bunch of games, maybe even the division, but go one-and-done in the playoffs because of the same thing. And hopefully then they move on from Harbaugh.

I don't have to read it...you know why? I agree with any criticism of Harbaugh they may contain. My argument doesn't contradict any of that. Harbaugh made the decision. They didn't mention the cramp because they were more focused on the overall pattern with Harbaugh. I'm just saying that if Lamar was able to stay on the field, he would've demanded they go for it--and Harbaugh would've listened to him and gone for it. It's been like that since the Seattle game back in 2019. But because he wasn't out there to convince him, Harbaugh stayed true to form and punted, smh That's why the cramp story is credible to me (and again Lamar doesn't lie) and not at all excusing of Harbaugh's decision making because it shouldn't have had to take Lamar making a case in the first place. Harbaugh still has to go. Final summary of my argument.

Now...this angle doesn't show when/how he left the field. Some people (presumably who were there) have said they saw him limp off a bit. Now the question is, then...why didn't Lamar stay on the field and insist on going for it if he wasn't in any real discomfort? From these post-game comments, Lamar obviously wanted to go for it. And Harbs usually listens to him--so what was different this time? This is why I don't think Lamar was lying. Now in that case...a timeout should've been called (probably worth the risk if Lamar could get back out there) P.S. You seem to forget that I'm a musician. We are prone to dramatic outbursts! It's literally in our dna