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Like one. But we were unlucky, and we still got a HECS, which we still could get! But that isn’t relevant to the point I am making, which has nothing to do with whether or not I think this season will end up great or a dud or anywhere in between. My point was that I am confused that some posters seem to think reaching climo in a Nino is good and it’s not. If we swing and miss on Nino’s, or even if we end up reaching climo in them, your average seasonal snowfall is going to be basically cut in half. And yes, sometimes a Nino doesn’t work out and you get screwed. But you don’t want that becoming a pattern. So let’s say BWI averages 20 a year and reaches 20 this year. Some people will think that’s great. It’s actually pretty bad and if it continues, BWI’s real average is going to drop to like 10 inches a year. Might even be less than that. Congrats, you are now Charlotte! 2009-2010 was amazing. I’d love to see it again even though it was once in a lifetime. But we don’t need 2009-2010 to have a successful Nino. No one is saying we need 100 inches of snow. But do we need something like 2003? Yeah, we do.

But it’s not average for this type of nino. Some of you are crazy. The average winter is literally the average of the few really good winters that are Nino’s where we crush it and a lot of crappy other seasons that are Nina or neutral. Hitting climo in a nino is a failure. You suffer through the last seven years for this year.

HECS or bust.

I think I’d find a way to survive, lol, but yeah, I remember that year being exhausting. I also think the period from like mid January through early February in 2010 was tiring as well. But I’d be cool running that back!

I think his point is the air mass wouldn’t have been that torched in the past during late January, especially when it was very cold a week prior.

If we can get to it by Feb 10, I guess that gives us 4-5 weeks to make things happen. But will it be like what happened in January where it then took weeks to get the cold necessary to actually snow? We need the pattern to set in quickly because, on top of the need for cold, we also usually need a few chances before we actually connect. We usually score on the backend of the good pattern, not at the start or even that much in the middle.

That would be hard to swallow. This week has been fun between the two overperformers and the cold surrounding it, making it feel like deep winter. Plus, the squall day before all of it also seemed to overperform. But outside of that and the one dusting in December, assuming nothing happens next Sunday, which is an extreme long shot, this winter has to be like a D or D+ given expectations, especially now that it looks like we might have nothing to even track until at least mid February. It basically forces us a huge heater over the final month to have a chance for this to meet expectations. Of course, one HECS could do it, but I keep hearing certain people constantly say the upcoming pattern is amazing, hyping up HECS and everything else and not only hasn’t it happened, but it really hasn’t been remotely close.

I know it’s just one run of one OP and it’s an OP, but man, unless we fluke into next Sunday. It looks really, really ugly. Like shut the blinds until at least mid February.

Ravens snow game for AFC title?!?!?

Streamers look awesome. Hoping they slide a bit east to hit Hoco.

I thought the rates would pick back up. Models seemed to have steady snow most of the day today. This has basically been drizzle most of the day.

Yeah, I'm done with this. Driveway is almost completely melted after I shoveled a few hours ago. Been basically nothing since 11. Let's see if we can get under some nice streamers. Looks like they might be a bit too far west and northwest but we shall see.

Ouch, that 5-8 in Northern Maryland is going to fail miserably.

I believe this puts BWI right at 10 inches even on the season, unless they recorded something the day of the snow squall. I know they somehow didn't record anything with the December snow.

I am just east of where 40 and 70 meet up. There were some short bursts of maybe moderate snow in that period where the flakes were really nice but it seemed to flip back to snizzle pretty quickly. It's been mostly snizzle the past 2-3 hours. I must have had 3-4 on the ground when I woke up and it feels like I haven't added all that much since then.

Snow overnight, which unfortunately I slept through, was very good. Snow today has been largely disappointing, especially given what some of the meso models showed. Other than a few better bursts, it's been mostly snizzle here and all cleared, paved surfaces have been melting for a couple hours. Light rates combined with less dense cloud cover has let the sun do its thing at these temps. Not seeing the pivot or any impact from the inverted trough this way yet.

Going to need some rate increases to see anyone get to the 8 inch mark. I actually thought double digits might be possible for some isolated areas this morning. I wonder when the inverted trough sets up and if we get a pivot later this afternoon.

Looks like a nice band just to my west.

I wonder if that norlun trough is going to get going and where exactly it will happen.

GFS seems a bit on an island with how dry it is overall.

But what will he have on his 6th call map?

That's more in line with what I expected, thanks!

Actually thought totals would be higher than that after seeing the run play out.

Wow, look at that run of the NAM!

HRRR was awful for the Tuesday storm and is generally bad this far out, but I actually think its latest run is kinda what I expect to happen and generally in line with the GFS and Euro. Philly/NJ is the place to be with this one. NJ could end up with a nice storm.