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Gfs showing the upslope late week up here so I guess that’s a good sign if a global is picking up on it.

Lol at wife measuring the snow... I’ll ask my wife when I’m back in jersey and she’s still up at jay and I’ll get “you’re such a tool”...then she’ll send me this half ass measurement from the sidewalk and I’ll ask her if she can try a better spot.

100 percent..but you know how it is early season when you are just watching for something big to get some major terrain expansion going. Last year being cut short in mid March makes me really itch for some of my favorite runs. We probably had 6-7 weeks of the season left if there were no prolonged torches..but point taken; if it’s mid Jan and I’m worrying about snow, we are all probably in a world of sh*t snow season wise.

Yeah, inch for inch I would guess we are about normal. Maybe someone has the data, but there have been plenty of days with snow in the air. The 10 days leading up to thanksgiving were pretty solid, but it all washed away that Wednesday and the biggest single total was probably that early upslope event that was just too early in the season. We have “cover” now, but I wouldn’t call it a pack. I’m not worried, but do have to admit that I would like to get a solid event out of the way to start building the pack and get some help getting terrain open. Jay just doesn’t have the fire power to blow their way to a big terrain expansion. And those cutters in the long range make me nervous of losing anything we might start. We need one of those to break for up here. Once to January, above normal temps are fine because the averages are so low, as long as we don’t get dews in the 40s with rain and fog. So I guess not nervous or complaining, but maybe anxious.

Still waiting for that this year...need a solid event to get things rolling. I need to start getting the Phin anxiety. It just got him a foot and a half.

Sloppy Snow here at 1900’.

6-8 up here? I’m guessing not all that is from the storm or includes today, as it looks like I’m a little bit too far west, though the 3k has close to that. Phin is the big winner. Lets see if he can keep this pack until April.

You're looking good for your first true snow up there. Enjoy man...hopefully PF and my area can score some up-slope scraps after this thing passes.

just wait til the Christmas eve rainstorm at Jay and Stowe with Phin Kayaking down his front lawn.

Good for the reputation to get open and stay open, but honestly, from a business perspective this year, there is zero to gain. They are not selling a day pass and the season pass holders are not even spending a couple bucks on food and alcohol this year.

We are all weenies, so you're not alone. I do feel what you are saying tho; walking out to the one lift spinning through grass and mud the day after Thanksgiving is not what I dreamt about all summer. I'm just trying to stay optimistic and let the averages play out. Where you and I come from, if you waste a couple coastals and a two week cold period, your winter might be done. I just think once we get some pack going and the cold sets in, we will feel better about this year and the NNE winter will do its thing...

The overall snow numbers have been decent up here, but it def has that slow start feel when you are in December, and we have mountains closed and probably looking at only a few trails into early next week. I'm not worried though, elevation should do it's thing even in the marginal setups now and we could be rolling in ten days or so.

Agree...There's decent chances for the Northern Greens in the next 10 days but I wouldn't want to be a resort in the Catskills or Poconos right now where theres no margin for error. I think things will be rolling by mid-month up our way. Shitty start though. Most years I would think everyone would want to get off to a big early season start to peak interest in the season and cash in on the demand, but this year, who knows. With reduced capacity, I think as soon as conditions get right, the demand will be there.

right decision to close today...save whats out there and get the guns in position. I'm shocked Mt. Snow is open.

This was a gut-punch to New England Ski resorts. I just checked out the Hunter Mountain Cam. That place looks like the late may melt with random grey piles. We should recover by next week in this pattern and with some upslope love, but man, even a top notch snow making system like they have has its work cut out. They will be able to blow again in a day or two, but its not like wet bulbs in the mid teens are forecast for days on end either down there.

Indy pass gets people to some legit mountains for a reasonable price if you have the ability and desire to drive to different resorts. If you just do the two days each at Cannon, Jay, and Magic, you are down to $33 a day with some other smaller hills left. And thats $33 a day skiing real deal vertical and terrain.

Exactly..Very few recreational activities that don't involve some sort of expense...Fishing, hunting, playing hockey. The initial expenditure to get into the activity is always going to be high and after that, you can make it as expensive as you want. I think the skiing myth is due to the twice a year, megalopolis family. If you have three kids who don't ski regularly, and you are doing two weekends a year with no passes, yes, it is extremely expensive. 5 lift tix, 5 rentals, lessons for the kids, food, gas etc. Easily over a thousand dollars. But if you are a regular skier, who buys a pass and uses the hell out of it, you have your own equipment, your kids don't need lessons and you skip the five $8 lattes on the way up and the $12 order of chicken fingers in the lodge, its no more expensive than any other activity. Living nearby a ski resort, there is very little additional expense once you buy the pass. I think the social aspect of it is where you can rack up the dollars.

10-15 and snow making temps gets us some serviceable terrain and in the glades

And that's what I love about up here. Yeah, it would be great to get a big synoptic event with a high water content to put down a solid base on the natural trails, but it seems like up here, with every threat comes the potential for that backside cold shot bringing the up-slope. I forgot which one of you reminded me, the northern greens don't move, so when that upper level pattern can be forecast several days out, we can have more confidence in getting some decent snows, rather than living and dying with each model run. I may be different that some folks who just love the big event that you track for days with the highs and lows of 1 am model runs, but I'll take the consistent powder days all winter long over the blockbuster. Hopefully, that gfs run that shows a few days of up-slope magic and below freezing highs gets some terrain open next week. We saw some on and off mixed precip yesterday, but nothing but grass outside right now.

Patience...We will get our snow. Too much elevation when deep winter kicks in not to. Plus, there is the up-slope insurance where you and I are.

Going to look even better when those boulders are hidden in a few weeks.

Because both have a 95 percent accuracy 200 plus hours out?

Opening day. Snow was in great shape considering the temps. Felt great to be back on snow.

North face looks empty.

Upslope seems to have been the majority of the snow here so far. Totals have been solid, it just seems we are a little early to maintain it.