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Great report! No question they lead the east so not sure why people argue over the numbers. To put it in perspective, would there be any argument that they get 30” more than k-mart? Yet people question their season total and as of yesterday, killington was reporting 178 on the season and Jay 208. Personally, I think the spread is usually a little greater than that, but I’ll give killington the benefit of the doubt as they got the December storm that jay largely missed. But no way anyone south of sugarbush gets the same upslope.

There wasn’t a foot near my place, but I certainly believe it in that pass off 242. The parking lot is up at about 2200-2300’ before 242 dips back down prior to the stateside entrance. That spot always seems to have big snow banks and the differences in snow intensity is often visible in that little 8 mile stretch down the hill to Montgomery. To be honest, I think I’ve noticed differences from stateside to tramside, but I might be imagining it. The mountains face different angles and obviously, wind comes through at varying intensities (I.e. almost always head on or from the right after tower 16 on the freezer) when it may be completely calm on the jet. I would guess that would affect the amount of moisture being wrung out snd where it lands. Such cool stuff to try and learn about. As for totals, maybe 2-3 during the day and 4 or so overnight. Very unscientific, but next year I want to put a snowboard in the back so I’ll have accurate measurements at least when I’m there. Some very light freezing drizzle for a short time with the earlier week storm, but not enough to do much damage.

I was just looking at the Mansfield Stake data after hearing about that 17' winter...couple things stood out. That winter did look like it rocked, but wow, was 15-16 bad up there. Was it a complete lack of snow or just constant melts? Also, this winters totals are pretty meh, compared to the last 20 years. I thought we had a great 6 week stretch, so nice to know unless we get a real ratter, this looks like a nice floor so far up here.

"Snow Showers in the mountains"....game on!!

I just read the bold for the highlights.

Maine seems like the place that has really been shafted this year. I don’t know the climo that well (except it’s Maine, so cold) but would have expected much higher snow totals. I guess you rely solely on synoptic bombs to get the big numbers and there really hasn’t been many. If you took away the upslope, we would be well below as well.

The grinch really delayed the start of the season up here and limited the woods and natural trails until about mlk, but I might make that trade again to get a 5 week stretch like we have. From a pure winter standpoint, nothing spectacular, but from a ski perspective, It was just enough base with near daily refreshers and zero thaw/freeze or rain. Pretty good run. And the northern greens weren’t destroyed this week like anything south of killington was. March has always been my favorite New England ski month so hopefully, it delivers.

100 percent..look at last winter.

What sticks out about this winter in Jersey is the pack and lack of torchy days. Jersey has had snow on the ground all month and probably will into early March. That’s a long streak for the climo. While it hasn’t been record cold, there haven’t been any 55-60 degree days either, which easily happen most winters. With the exception of the the rainer the other day, lots of low 30s for highs and low teens for lows, which is perfect for a wintery feel. Up at jay, nothing memorable for that climate; maybe even a little low on the snow, but consistent, with no torch or washouts since the grinch. Maine looks like the area that has really been shafted this year.

dead beats melting, tho.

Jay survived this pretty well, but it was a classic thaw/hard freeze for southern Vermont/Catskills. The Mt. Snows, Magics and Hunters of the world look pretty un-skiable right now. Killington looks like they are reopening the 25 or so trails they closed yesterday for tmrw, so maybe thats the cutoff in Vt, but for anything south of there, Thurs night/Friday isn't going to fix this. Hopefully, Monday comes through. I would think the northern greens/whites recover fairly quickly with what looks like several decent bread and butter shots over the next week or so.

Been a great stretch...no liquid or thaw/freeze has kept it fresh and any crust out of it. Def flirting with the end of the streak tmrw, but should recover quick with the famous J-spin upslope insurance policy later in the week after the Friday Storm. No Snorkel storms, but just good quality, consistent skiing. I haven't made it to big jay, but it's on my list (need someone experienced who knows it)…did you go up from the 242 parking lot or from that spot off Northway?

Hopefully sleet and not a ton of freezing rain...any liquid is going to make weds pretty bad with that quick, hard freeze after the precip shuts off. Southern Vermont resorts might be in trouble. Better hope thurs refreshes.

Shifting toward later season climo...reason why March is the best New England ski month of the winter.

No gutters here..if that one on the corner was at any height, it could be a dagger straight through the heart of anyone underneath.

Peak ski week, limited capacity and best conditions in a couple years. Not surprising...hunter is similar.

Having spent a good chunk of winter up here this year, I haven’t seen any crazy exaggerations. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen at all, but most days when I check the conditions report, they are pretty close to what I’m walking out to and I’m at 1850’. They do report broader ranges and as I’ve mentioned, if you always use the higher number “we picked up 3-5 on the hill today” and adding the 5 up all winter, I could see that skewing it a little, but I’ve never woken up to 2 and the report says 6. Those woods are deep right now. Pf is as accurate as they get, so I’m sure it’s not the same here. Post mlk, it really has snowed almost non-stop. Maybe one year I can be up here a full winter and really accurately document and see how off they are. Tough to tell in the picture, but that’s outside my front door currently and while that’s where they cleared the sidewalk, you can still tell the overall depth is probably over three feet.

Completely misses me at jay. I’m starting to learn how to anticipate what’s coming and the flow a little. Closest spot that it picks up is probably Richford. Not sure if it has anything to do with how isolated the snow is sometimes also. Not always, but there are times where it literally shuts off just 7-8 miles down 242.

I’ll let the others more familiar with the meteorology, flow and wind pattern this week comment, but I will say that tues and weds look good for powder refills and right now, the woods are so deep that they don’t even really need much more than that when you will be there. People are starting to pick up on how well the northern greens are skiing so maybe it will start to get a little more crowded, but mid week has been amazing and empty; zero lift lines. Everything is staying fresh. I would recommend the glades off ullrs (andres and beaver) as well as everglade right now. Also, the tram is not running weekdays, so hike up north way and Valhalla will be untouched or if you know the pump house.

Yep...”snow showers” have a whole new meaning up here...I’m used to that phrase for passing flurries; now, it means light it up, upslope is coming. I’ll take snow showers for days.

Kind of cool, tho. Going to sleep watching the flood lights and wake up to 4-6 of fresh powder.

I mean, let’s put Jersey winter in perspective..nice to see a good streak back home, but I think I’ll keep the place in jay.

Def over 30 up here.

I have about 28” in NJ...what’s uncommon this year is the snow on snow pattern setting up, not necessarily the depth at one single moment. It’s great to see down there as it’s been a couple years since there has been a real snow pack mid winter feel, but it still can’t compare to northern vermont. Overall winter retention is completely different. It’s great for the local ski areas tho, who some seasons ski on completely man made garbage most of the year. Even hunter opened all of hunter west for the first time in a few years.. I agree...I root for snow anywhere. I live seeing places that miss for a while score big, especially knowing the averages will come through up north.

That looks like a nice open glade to learn in!