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Thanks for the information. It seems like an overreach to me. I think they should put their experiment to rest November 1 for the foreseeable future.

The logical follow-up question is of course the following. Has the first frost, freeze and hard freeze ever occurred on the same date?

What's with the frost warning tonight in Orange County? The entire county saw a freeze to hard freeze in some places last week. Why would a frost advisory even be necessary?

29.1 here. I'm tempted to falsify the records by 0.7 degrees just to achieve the elusive first freeze/hard freeze on the same day. I could not live with that 28.5, would ruin my whole week.

Are we talking a Tsuchinshan type rarity here?

Morning low so far of 30, so the first freeze of the season. Can we hit 28 and have the first freeze and hard freeze of the season on the same day? I haven't been keeping track of the first hard freeze dates but I would think it's rare to occur on the same day. Maybe not interesting to most people but still rare.

Please differentiate first freeze and hard frost?

EWR 15.4 LGA 12.9 KNYC 2.2 - many on this board will still insist they are measuring accurately in the Park, which anyone that pays attention knows they do not. JFK 10.5 SWF 34.4 ALB 64.8 BOST - no one cares PHIL - no one cares

29.8 for the low this morning.

30 this morning for the low. This may be it for the freezes this season. A little bit early for a last freeze, I've found we usually average the May 2 to 6 period for last freeze.

I went from Saratoga Monday morning to Westport NY on the shores of Lake Champlain 35 miles south of Plattsburgh. Was a last minute decision rather than go to Plattsburgh for an extra minute of totality and I couldn't have made a better one. It only took an hour 40 minutes to drive the 90 miles that morning. I left at 8:30 which helped. The town was well prepared. The local country club had free viewing from their golf course. A few cirrus clouds in the afternoon that had zero effect on eclipse viewing. An A+ experience. The drive back to Saratoga Springs at 4:30 a little rougher. Three hours for 90 mile drive but compared to what others on the back roads of Vermont went through not terrible either.

In Saratoga Springs headed to Plattsburgh or Lake placid? Give me some advice please Don. To late for Maine.

In Saratoga Springs for the night and headed for Plattsburgh or Lake Placid around 7:00. In the 20's here right now but weather seems to be cooperating for this afternoon. Will report on weather conditions up here as we get closer to countdown.

I was thinking the same. This one felt a lot stronger than that one.

Definitely an earthquake. I'm in Orange County NY 50 miles north of city and never felt anything like that before.

You do know you need to see somebody about this heat fetish thing right ?

Probably about right. Had a 1.5 inches at 6 am. Been snowing steadily again since 7:30 but no additional accumulations. Temperature at 32 so pretty much just evening out between melting and compression

One last batch of light snow, 32 degrees. Reminds me of the old days pre 2020.

Woke up to sound of the plow and snow covered lawn. Somewhat surprised.

1.4 inches of snow here. Somewhat unexpected this morning. Plow actually woke me up at 6 am. I was stuck at 29.3 inches for the season for so long I gave up any hope of reaching 30. Now that that's accomplished I can officially give this Winter the D- it so rightfully deserves.

Or almost anywhere in the vast north country of New York, which is where I'll be.

I know the area 50 miles or more north of the city doesn't really exist to most on this forum, but I've heard April snows are fairly common there. Looks like Wednesday night has a shot.

Syracuse is Central New York, almost the geographical center of NY. I actually laugh when people refer to Orange County where I live as upstate NY. If so what do we call the 300 miles of NY state north of where I live?

Can't believe it took this forum this long to make an eclipse thread. New England forum has had one for months. I booked the 7th and 8th in Saratoga Springs. The morning of the 8th I'll head wherever the weather looks best in the area of totality. Saratoga Springs is about an hours drive from the edge of totality path, two hours from the center. Hoping there's somewhere in NYS within 2-3 hour drive from there with decent weather. Im just hoping the roads aren't ridiculous like the hotel prices. Even three months ago when I booked in Saratoga everything in Lake Placid and Plattsburgh was already $450 a night and up if you could find a room.

I'll be in Saratoga Springs NY, the morning of the 8th and have three options all two hours or less drive time away. Plattsburgh, Tupper Lake or Lake placid? I'm thinking Plattsburgh will have a better shot at less cloud cover than the two towns in the middle of the Adirondacks, everything else being equal that day. Interested in any opinions of which place would have the best odds for better viewing?