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10 hours ago, dWave said:

Normal highs already max out in the upper 80s. Since July daily averages are pretty flat, the avg high for the month is nearly the same.

87/72 at LGA

EWR 87/70

Teterboro 87/69

Meanwhile Central Park tops out at 85/71.

Philly 88/70

Down in DC they now have normals in July at 90...90/73

where's JFK been heading?

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1 hour ago, jm1220 said:

Another washed out weekend? NEVER I tell you! 

At least we are doing better than the areas further to our north.These stuck weather patterns are the real deal. The record warm Great Lakes since last fall has given the areas to the east precipitation on every weekend going back to November. So plenty of precipitation with the dominant Great Lakes cutter storm tracks. 

 

 

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Just now, bluewave said:

At least we are doing better than the areas further to our north.These stuck weather patterns are the real deal. The record warm Great Lakes since last fall has given the areas to the east precip on every weekend going back to November. So plenty of precipitation with the dominant Great Lakes cutter storm tracks. 

 

 

when are we going to get a stuck pattern when it's completely dry for multiple weeks like last October - mid November? That's what we really need.

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31 minutes ago, bluewave said:

At least we are doing better than the areas further to our north.These stuck weather patterns are the real deal. The record warm Great Lakes since last fall has given the areas to the east precipitation on every weekend going back to November. So plenty of precipitation with the dominant Great Lakes cutter storm tracks. 

 

 

ISP had a trace of precip over the 5/10-5/11th weekend and 0.01" on 5/17-5/18. So those weekends dont count as dry even though they were, at least at Islip. Not surprised by upstate though.

But it has been very rainy and dreary over the past month, were paying for last fall

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1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

when are we going to get a stuck pattern when it's completely dry for multiple weeks like last October - mid November? That's what we really need.

That’s what allowed JFK to set the November monthly max of 82° last year. Flash drought permitted JFK to beat the previous record by a full 2°. If this had occurred back in July instead, then it would have been the first 106°high at JFK. Since that is +2° over the all-time summer max set back in 1966. 

Also notice the record ridge building from the Great Lakes and westerly flow on November 1st, 2024. This pattern has been missing during our summers since 2013. The Euro summer forecast is wet for our area. So probably noting as dry as last September into October this July into August. 

But with the major drought out West, pieces of the heat  can come east from time to time with drier 1 to perhaps 2 week periods. Wouldn’t take much for a day or two of westerly flow and JFK making a run in its first 100° since 2013. But specifics like that will probably have to wait until we get past the solstice. 100° heat since 2013 has been restricted to interior Queens from Corona to LGA and NJ. 


 

Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Month of Nov maximum temperatures 
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
1 2024 82 0
2 2022 80 0
- 1950 80 1
3 1993 77 0
- 1982 77 0
- 1975 77 0
4 1974 76 0
5 2015 75 0
- 2003 75 0
- 1990 75 0

 

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12 minutes ago, bluewave said:

That’s what allowed JFK to set the November monthly max of 82° last year. Flash drought permitted JFK to beat the previous record by a full 2°. If this had occurred back in July instead, then it would have been the first 108° high at JFK. Since that is +2° over the all-time summer max set back in 1966. 

Also notice the record ridge building from the Great Lakes and westerly flow on November 1st, 2024. This pattern has been missing during our summers since 2013. The Euro summer forecast is wet for our area. So probably noting as dry as last September into October this July into August. 

But with the major drought out West, pieces of the heat  can come east from time to time with drier 1 to perhaps 2 week periods. Wouldn’t take much for a day or two of westerly flow and JFK making a run in its first 100° since 2013. But specifics like that will probably have to wait until we get past the solstice. 100° heat since 2013 has been restricted to interior Queens from Corona to LGA and NJ. 


 

Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Month of Nov maximum temperatures 
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
1 2024 82 0
2 2022 80 0
- 1950 80 1
3 1993 77 0
- 1982 77 0
- 1975 77 0
4 1974 76 0
5 2015 75 0
- 2003 75 0
- 1990 75 0

 

Yes, 1966 had a truly epic summer, how many 100+ degree days did JFK have that year, did they match 1948 and 2010 for 3 100+ degree days, Chris??

It sounds like that kind of heat is unlikely but we could get something like 2011 which had a very wet year, but the rain stopped for 2 weeks in late July to make that intense heat possible.

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6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Yes, 1966 had a truly epic summer, how many 100+ degree days did JFK have that year, did they match 1948 and 2010 for 3 100+ degree days, Chris??

It sounds like that kind of heat is unlikely but we could get something like 2011 which had a very wet year, but the rain stopped for 2 weeks in late July to make that intense heat possible.

 

July 1966 hottest of the summer

 

JFK

 

7/2/1966: 101 / 69
7/3/1966: 104 / 77
7/4/1966: 101 / 74

 

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JFK July, 1966

85 67 0.00 0.0
101 69 0.00 0.0
104 77 0.00 0.0
101 74 0.00 0.0
86 69 0.00 0.0
82 70 0.00 0.0
91 73 0.00 0.0
87 69 0.00 0.0
85 62 0.00 0.0
87 70 0.00 0.0
98 73 0.00 0.0
93 72 0.00 0.0
92 73 0.00 0.0
89 73 0.00 0.0
83 66 0.00 0.0
82 60 0.00 0.0
83 63 0.00 0.0
87 63 0.00 0.0
81 67 0.34 0.0
82 61 0.00 0.0
79 59 0.00 0.0
81 59 0.00 0.0
81 64 0.00 0.0
80 64 0.00 0.0
82 66 0.00 0.0
89 68 0.01 0.0
82 69 0.08 0.0
80 70 0.03 0.0
91 70 0.23 0.0
78 63 0.00 0.0
85 62 0.00 0.0

 

 

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10 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Yes, 1966 had a truly epic summer, how many 100+ degree days did JFK have that year, did they match 1948 and 2010 for 3 100+ degree days, Chris??

It sounds like that kind of heat is unlikely but we could get something like 2011 which had a very wet year, but the rain stopped for 2 weeks in late July to make that intense heat possible.

 


JFK July, 2011

 

 

85 63 0.00 0.0
86 67 0.00 0.0
78 70 0.23 0.0
86 69 0.00 0.0
91 70 0.00 0.0
86 71 0.00 0.0
92 73 0.09 0.0
82 70 0.58 0.0
91 70 0.00 0.0
82 68 0.00 0.0
88 72 0.00 0.0
98 77 0.00 0.0
89 70 0.06 0.0
85 66 0.00 0.0
86 68 0.00 0.0
89 69 0.00 0.0
87 70 0.00 0.0
94 72 0.00 0.0
93 75 0.00 0.0
85 73 0.00 0.0
88 73 0.00 0.0
103 76 0.00 0.0
102 79 0.00 0.0
93 76 0.21 0.0
81 70 0.09 0.0
88 70 0.17 0.0
87 69 0.00 0.0
86 69 0.00 0.0
83 71 1.28 0.0
93 75 0.00 0.0
89 71 0.00 0.0
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5 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 


JFK July, 2011

 

 

85 63 0.00 0.0
86 67 0.00 0.0
78 70 0.23 0.0
86 69 0.00 0.0
91 70 0.00 0.0
86 71 0.00 0.0
92 73 0.09 0.0
82 70 0.58 0.0
91 70 0.00 0.0
82 68 0.00 0.0
88 72 0.00 0.0
98 77 0.00 0.0
89 70 0.06 0.0
85 66 0.00 0.0
86 68 0.00 0.0
89 69 0.00 0.0
87 70 0.00 0.0
94 72 0.00 0.0
93 75 0.00 0.0
85 73 0.00 0.0
88 73 0.00 0.0
103 76 0.00 0.0
102 79 0.00 0.0
93 76 0.21 0.0
81 70 0.09 0.0
88 70 0.17 0.0
87 69 0.00 0.0
86 69 0.00 0.0
83 71 1.28 0.0
93 75 0.00 0.0
89 71 0.00 0.0

2010 had 3 at JFK though Tony..... 3 in 2010 and 2 in 2011.

Can you post July 2010 there, Tony? Thanks!

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17 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

sounds like that kind of heat is unlikely but we could get something like 2011 which had a very wet year, but the rain stopped for 2 weeks in late July to make that intense heat possible.

Anytime we start to see heat like this building out West in early June, the potential is there for 100° heat around our area after June 20th into July as pieces come east.

 

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9 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

JFK July, 1966

85 67 0.00 0.0
101 69 0.00 0.0
104 77 0.00 0.0
101 74 0.00 0.0
86 69 0.00 0.0
82 70 0.00 0.0
91 73 0.00 0.0
87 69 0.00 0.0
85 62 0.00 0.0
87 70 0.00 0.0
98 73 0.00 0.0
93 72 0.00 0.0
92 73 0.00 0.0
89 73 0.00 0.0
83 66 0.00 0.0
82 60 0.00 0.0
83 63 0.00 0.0
87 63 0.00 0.0
81 67 0.34 0.0
82 61 0.00 0.0
79 59 0.00 0.0
81 59 0.00 0.0
81 64 0.00 0.0
80 64 0.00 0.0
82 66 0.00 0.0
89 68 0.01 0.0
82 69 0.08 0.0
80 70 0.03 0.0
91 70 0.23 0.0
78 63 0.00 0.0
85 62 0.00 0.0

 

 

Thanks Tony, three in a row has only happened twice there, in 1948 if I remember correctly and in 1966.  In July 2010 it was 3 days out of 4, July 4, 6 and 7.....

 

I forget if the one in 1948 was in July or August.....

 

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11 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

JFK July, 1966

85 67 0.00 0.0
101 69 0.00 0.0
104 77 0.00 0.0
101 74 0.00 0.0
86 69 0.00 0.0
82 70 0.00 0.0
91 73 0.00 0.0
87 69 0.00 0.0
85 62 0.00 0.0
87 70 0.00 0.0
98 73 0.00 0.0
93 72 0.00 0.0
92 73 0.00 0.0
89 73 0.00 0.0
83 66 0.00 0.0
82 60 0.00 0.0
83 63 0.00 0.0
87 63 0.00 0.0
81 67 0.34 0.0
82 61 0.00 0.0
79 59 0.00 0.0
81 59 0.00 0.0
81 64 0.00 0.0
80 64 0.00 0.0
82 66 0.00 0.0
89 68 0.01 0.0
82 69 0.08 0.0
80 70 0.03 0.0
91 70 0.23 0.0
78 63 0.00 0.0
85 62 0.00 0.0

 

 

wild so the July 4, 1966 temperature was the hottest on record for July 4th, which was tied on July 4, 2010, both were a very dry heat.

That July 3, 1966 temperature is the hottest on record at JFK (104) and LGA (107).

 

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16 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

JFK July, 1966

85 67 0.00 0.0
101 69 0.00 0.0
104 77 0.00 0.0
101 74 0.00 0.0
86 69 0.00 0.0
82 70 0.00 0.0
91 73 0.00 0.0
87 69 0.00 0.0
85 62 0.00 0.0
87 70 0.00 0.0
98 73 0.00 0.0
93 72 0.00 0.0
92 73 0.00 0.0
89 73 0.00 0.0
83 66 0.00 0.0
82 60 0.00 0.0
83 63 0.00 0.0
87 63 0.00 0.0
81 67 0.34 0.0
82 61 0.00 0.0
79 59 0.00 0.0
81 59 0.00 0.0
81 64 0.00 0.0
80 64 0.00 0.0
82 66 0.00 0.0
89 68 0.01 0.0
82 69 0.08 0.0
80 70 0.03 0.0
91 70 0.23 0.0
78 63 0.00 0.0
85 62 0.00 0.0

 

 

Was 1966 a very dry year? I think a bunch of those years around then were very dry and that probably helped the heat too. 

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13 minutes ago, steve392 said:

No, omg I would lose it if that happened.  Thankfully the teething stage is behind us, now he's the equivalent of a teenager with adhd.  August 9th can't come soon enough, snip snip!

Family friends used to have a boxer growing up, when I was like 10 I would fight with him as he was pulling on a pig skin and I was pulling on the other end, if he really wanted to he could drag me across the floor lol

Boxers are literally a pile of muscle 

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12 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Yes just like July 2010

Those were the good old days....

 

JFK July, 2010

81 64 0.00 0.0
83 62 0.00 0.0
87 66 0.00 0.0
101 69 0.00 0.0
97 71 0.00 0.0
101 75 0.00 0.0
100 77 0.00 0.0
87 76 0.00 0.0
87 74 0.00 0.0
83 74 0.00 0.0
90 73 0.00 0.0
90 71 0.00 0.0
83 74 0.85 0.0
82 74 0.29 0.0
86 73 0.00 0.0
87 74 0.00 0.0
93 79 0.00 0.0
95 77 0.00 0.0
88 74 0.58 0.0
89 75 0.00 0.0
90 76 0.00 0.0
91 75 0.00 0.0
84 74 0.61 0.0
97 80 0.00 0.0
93 74 0.08 0.0
89 68 0.00 0.0
90 71 0.00 0.0
86 71 0.00 0.0
87 74 0.03 0.0
80 68 0.00 0.0
81 64 0.00 0.0
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1 minute ago, SACRUS said:

 

JFK July, 2010

81 64 0.00 0.0
83 62 0.00 0.0
87 66 0.00 0.0
101 69 0.00 0.0
97 71 0.00 0.0
101 75 0.00 0.0
100 77 0.00 0.0
87 76 0.00 0.0
87 74 0.00 0.0
83 74 0.00 0.0
90 73 0.00 0.0
90 71 0.00 0.0
83 74 0.85 0.0
82 74 0.29 0.0
86 73 0.00 0.0
87 74 0.00 0.0
93 79 0.00 0.0
95 77 0.00 0.0
88 74 0.58 0.0
89 75 0.00 0.0
90 76 0.00 0.0
91 75 0.00 0.0
84 74 0.61 0.0
97 80 0.00 0.0
93 74 0.08 0.0
89 68 0.00 0.0
90 71 0.00 0.0
86 71 0.00 0.0
87 74 0.03 0.0
80 68 0.00 0.0
81 64 0.00 0.0

That probably had the most 90 degree days of any month at JFK unless July 1993 or July 1999 exceeded it.

Thanks !!

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1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

That probably had the most 90 degree days of any month at JFK unless July 1993 or July 1999 exceeded it.

Thanks !!

 

1991 not as hot in JFK

 

JFK, July, 1991

 

79 62 0.00 0.0
80 67 0.28 0.0
77 66 0.00 0.0
77 63 0.00 0.0
71 66 0.35 0.0
77 67 0.00 0.0
84 71 0.07 0.0
89 71 0.00 0.0
88 73 0.00 0.0
80 62 0.00 0.0
90 68 0.00 0.0
82 63 0.00 0.0
77 66 0.68 0.0
82 69 0.00 0.0
87 67 0.00 0.0
86 67 0.00 0.0
91 71 0.00 0.0
92 76 0.00 0.0
88 76 0.00 0.0
96 76 0.00 0.0
99 77 0.05 0.0
89 74 0.08 0.0
97 74 0.39 0.0
89 74 0.00 0.0
80 70 0.26 0.0
84 71 0.20 0.0
79 69 0.00 0.0
86 67 0.00 0.0
74 67 0.12 0.0
78 68 0.00 0.0
80 69 0.00 0.0
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Just now, SACRUS said:

 

1991 not as hot in JFK

 

JFK, July, 1991

 

79 62 0.00 0.0
80 67 0.28 0.0
77 66 0.00 0.0
77 63 0.00 0.0
71 66 0.35 0.0
77 67 0.00 0.0
84 71 0.07 0.0
89 71 0.00 0.0
88 73 0.00 0.0
80 62 0.00 0.0
90 68 0.00 0.0
82 63 0.00 0.0
77 66 0.68 0.0
82 69 0.00 0.0
87 67 0.00 0.0
86 67 0.00 0.0
91 71 0.00 0.0
92 76 0.00 0.0
88 76 0.00 0.0
96 76 0.00 0.0
99 77 0.05 0.0
89 74 0.08 0.0
97 74 0.39 0.0
89 74 0.00 0.0
80 70 0.26 0.0
84 71 0.20 0.0
79 69 0.00 0.0
86 67 0.00 0.0
74 67 0.12 0.0
78 68 0.00 0.0
80 69 0.00 0.0

No, although that 99 on the 21st was toasty lol.

July 1993 and July 1999 were hotter.

 

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