Analog96 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I wasn't trying to create an argument about it.. I glanced at the forecast, didn't see anything out of the ordinary and took it for what it was worth.. Yea, may it change? Of course... But if we go with your logic, what are you basing your miserable forecast on? The GFS and the ECMWF. NWS is catching on this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 A 5 minute shower just passed through and I'm pretty sure I heard the pinging sound typical with sleet... Temp is about 42 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Im happy we got the needed rain but this storm needs to get the hell out of here now. If you enjoy yesterday and today's weather you need to get you're head checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Im happy we got the needed rain but this storm needs to get the hell out of here now. If you enjoy yesterday and today's weather you need to get you're head checked. Problem is, 2 new storms, one for Thursday and especially one for Saturday-Monday looks to ruin the entire week with gloomy and chilly weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Problem is, 2 new storms, one for Thursday and especially one for Saturday-Monday looks to ruin the entire week with gloomy and chilly weather. Funny how today and tomorrow's temps are very close to normal, maybe 2-4 degrees below and yet we're complaining about how chilly it is. Thursdays temp might be at or slightly above normal. I guess the wind element doesn't make things any better either though but we're really not that far off from normal reality. This is just how crazy the warmth has been that the seasonal temperatures feel chilly to a lot of us. Constant 70s and 80s are normally reserved from mid May into the summer, not March and April so I welcome the seasonal feel to late April. Not too happy about the prospects of more rain though this week, I kind of wanted a dry week after the weekend deluge before we get more rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Funny how today and tomorrow's temps are very close to normal, maybe 2-4 degrees below and yet we're complaining about how chilly it is. Thursdays temp might be at or slightly above normal. I guess the wind element doesn't make things any better either though but we're really not that far off from normal reality. This is just how crazy the warmth has been that the seasonal temperatures feel chilly to a lot of us. Constant 70s and 80s are normally reserved from mid May into the summer, not March and April so I welcome the seasonal feel to late April. Not too happy about the prospects of more rain though this week, I kind of wanted a dry week after the weekend deluge before we get more rain. Yesterday was a -8 departure and Sunday was a -5 departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Yesterday was a -8 departure and Sunday was a -5 departure. I'm talking about today and the next few days, Sunday and Monday were both rather chilly, yesterday actually felt really chilly with the wind and temps only in the low to mid 50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 If models are right, April could end up near or above average precip wise. Right now, with 3.49" for NYC, we are right on average for April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 I'm talking about today and the next few days, Sunday and Monday were both rather chilly, yesterday actually felt really chilly with the wind and temps only in the low to mid 50s. Lows temp though. Tonight should fall to the lower 40's. I believe the average high temp for today is around 64-65 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Lows temp though. Tonight should fall to the lower 40's. I believe the average high temp for today is around 64-65 as well. Today's high of 58 and a low of 42 (occurred at 7am), should put NYC at a -5 to -6 departure for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 the 00z EURO actually had snow for the city, can't get the 12z maps to load on wxunderground but looks similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 the 00z EURO actually had snow for the city, can't get the 12z maps to load on wxunderground but looks similar It's crazy. The Gfs has mid 30's temps and a mixed bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 It's crazy. The Gfs has mid 30's temps and a mix bag. GFS looks too warm but the 12z EURO got colder from 00z. this setup looks better than the one this past week if there's any sort of potential... we had a snowstorm before halloween so it would be fitting to get one right after my birthday as well. never say never, although if we do get snow it isn't going to stick in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 With regards to climatology, what's more likely, seeing accumulating snow on October 28-30 or April 28-30? Averages for late October are about 3-4 degrees lower than April 28-30 and the sun angle for late October is much lower than late April. However, the ocean temperatures are likely colder in late April than late October and there is still plenty of cold air to the north in late April while it just starts to build in late October. So what's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 With regards to climatology, what's more likely, seeing accumulating snow on October 28-30 or April 28-30? Averages for late October are about 3-4 degrees lower than April 28-30 and the sun angle for late October is much lower than late April. However, the ocean temperatures are likely colder in late April than late October and there is still plenty of cold air to the north in late April while it just starts to build in late October. So what's better. This is a no brainer...more likely to see October snow than late April... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Accumulating snow? I just got back, could someone please fill me in on this? Watches should be up tonight, expecting 2-4 city/coast, 4-8 N & W,with less for twin forks and the shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 This is a no brainer...more likely to see October snow than late April... If we take early April and early November, which have about equivalent average temperatures, it's much more likely to see snow in April. We've seen quite a few accumulating snow events April 1-15th in NYC compard to November 1-15th (virtually none). I'd say early April has about the same chances as late November in terms of accumulating snowfalls. Late April probably more or less the same as late October, given the cooler ocean temps compensate for higher avg air temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 12z ECMWF has temperatures in the mid to upper 30s when it is precipitating with 850s below 0, and thicknesses around 540 at hour 126. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 12z ECMWF has temperatures in the mid to upper 30s when it is precipitating with 850s below 0, and thicknesses around 540 at hour 126. For Alaska... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 For Alaska... Did you look at the text soundings? The text soundings are showing temperatures between 36 and 38, thicknesses around 540, and 850s of -4 to -6. It might be best to do your own research before posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 GFS looks too warm but the 12z EURO got colder from 00z. this setup looks better than the one this past week if there's any sort of potential... we had a snowstorm before halloween so it would be fitting to get one right after my birthday as well. never say never, although if we do get snow it isn't going to stick in the city. Heard that before. I know it won't happen but to play devil's advocate it needs to be mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkrangers Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Anyone who wants snow at this point should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Did you look at the text soundings? The text soundings are showing temperatures between 36 and 38, thicknesses around 540, and 850s of -4 to -6. It might be best to do your own research before posting. I forgot the "jk" on the end of that. That's my bad. I'm not one to start ****. Apologies for any confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Anyone who wants snow at this point should be banned. If you like weather, you should want to see it. You always want to see records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I forgot the "jk" on the end of that. That's my bad. I'm not one to start ****. Apologies for any confusion. No problem! I know you aren't like that, which is why your post surprised me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 Anyone who wants snow at this point should be banned. Why not? Records are cool. It won't happen anyway but if it did, would be pretty amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 If you like weather, you should want to see it. You always want to see records. Having anything close to a repeat of October with heavy wet snow is definitely something I'd rather not go through again. If it's just some wet snow falling I would want to see it happen even in late April, especially after a season like this when it almost never snowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderdude Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I rather kill myself if it ever see a heavy wet snow even similar what we see saw in October but don't forgot the Euro showed snow last week for the area and the GFS has heavily back out of this solution. Lately I don't trust what the Euro lately what it's crazy snowy solution. Next it will show a blizzard this weekend and then it will show a heavy wet snow for Memorial Day weekend. Come on let's stick with reality. Of course what I said was not literally about seeing snow in late April or May. The point is that it would another disaster like the October storm with widespread power outage and with leaves in almost full bloom. It is really time to leave this winter behind and hope next winter will be better that is the point I am trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I rather kill myself if it ever see a heavy wet snow even similar what we see saw in October but don't forgot the Euro showed snow last week for the area and the GFS has heavily back out of this solution. Lately I don't trust what the Euro lately what it's crazy snowy solution. Next it will show a blizzard this weekend and then it will show a heavy wet snow for Memorial Day weekend. Come on let's stick with reality. If there actually was reality, not much of that in recent months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I rather kill myself if it ever see a heavy wet snow even similar what we see saw in October but don't forgot the Euro showed snow last week Please tell me your joking, otherwise I wouldn't expect you to live long given that's how you'd react to frozen water.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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