Amped Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 The news media has sunk to a new low. I can't believe they have resorted to making up stories like these. I have read through every thread on Americas Largest weather forum, and found no mention of this historic flooding event whatsoever. There is no way it can possibly be happening. This is the kind of stuff I expect from Weekly World News and Fox News, but from the New York Times and USA Today!!! You mean Comon!! Edit: Yes I was making a joke on the lack of attention this board has given to the issue. It's okay to discuss the flooding issue seriously now. http://www.cbsnews.c...n20060731.shtml http://www.usatoday....er-floods_n.htm http://www.nytimes.c...ner=rss&emc=rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Thunder Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 The news media has sunk to a new low. I can't believe they have resorted to making up stories like these. I have read through every thread on Americas Largest weather forum, and found no mention of this historic flooding event whatsoever. There is no way it can possibly be happening. This is the kind of stuff I expect from Weekly World News and Fox News, but from the New York Times and USA Today!!! You mean Common!! http://www.cbsnews.c...n20060731.shtml http://www.usatoday....er-floods_n.htm http://www.nytimes.c...ner=rss&emc=rss I'm assuming you are speaking of this weather forum. In which case...I assume THIS thread http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/17432-okmoar-and-into-the-oh-valley-heavy-rain-and-flood-threat/ doesn't count?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 The news media has sunk to a new low. I can't believe they have resorted to making up stories like these. I have read through every thread on Americas Largest weather forum, and found no mention of this historic flooding event whatsoever. There is no way it can possibly be happening. This is the kind of stuff I expect from Weekly World News and Fox News, but from the New York Times and USA Today!!! You mean Common!! http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/05/07/earlyshow/main20060731.shtml http://www.usatoday.com/weather/floods/2011-05-02-ohio-mississippi-river-floods_n.htm http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/08/weekinreview/08mississippi.html?partner=rss&emc=rss I sincerely hope you're joking. Memphis flood gauge: http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=meg&gage=memt1&view=1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1%22 Note, we've already reached the second highest crest on record there. And that's just one gauge that I happened to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I sincerely hope you're joking. Memphis flood gauge: http://water.weather...,1,1,1,1,1,1%22 Note, we've already reached the second highest crest on record there. And that's just one gauge that I happened to look at. I'm guessing this thread is inspired by an emergency manager with alpacas... It'll wind up moved to OT soon, if I had to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Sarcasm meters are not working well today it appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Sarcasm meters are not working well today it appears. I got it right away. It should wind up in OT, but I got it. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 I sincerely hope you're joking. Memphis flood gauge: http://water.weather...,1,1,1,1,1,1%22 Note, we've already reached the second highest crest on record there. And that's just one gauge that I happened to look at. Yes I was, I make a few drunk Colbert posts in case you haven't noticed. The interesting thing about this is that there's a severe drought a few hundred miles west of this. Otherwise floods do get a bit boring, but they beet out tronado deaths some years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I'm not privy to all the weather-side inside jokes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I'm guessing this thread is inspired by an emergency manager with alpacas... It'll wind up moved to OT soon, if I had to guess. Beyond having family and friends in Memphis and them keeping me updated on FB, I dont recall commenting on a thread here about the flooding other than a post about a PDS Flood Watch. Whats this have to do with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Kind of sucks that we built all our cities so damn close to water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Kind of sucks that we built all our cities so damn close to water. Cities have always been built close to water since the dawn of civilization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Cities have always been built close to water since the dawn of civilization. Yes that was once crucial for agriculture, drinking water and trasportatation. However with modern technology this has become somewhat unescessary. Building cities in the Arizona desert is still not a bad Idea however. State Collge being one of the bigger cities I've seen not near a river. So was Boulder Colorado, although it has Boulder Creek a minor tributary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Yes that was once crucial for agriculture, drinking water and trasportatation. However with modern technology this has become somewhat unescessary. Building cities in the Arizona desert is still not a bad Idea however. State Collge being one of the bigger cities I've seen not near a river. So was Boulder Colorado, although it has Boulder Creek a minor tributary. You can't just say, oh let's move this city with pop. 500,000 a few miles away from where it is right now. For the most part, the major cities today were built before today's technology. So, they will remain prone to the wrath of H2O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Beyond having family and friends in Memphis and them keeping me updated on FB, I dont recall commenting on a thread here about the flooding other than a post about a PDS Flood Watch. Whats this have to do with me? Maybe I misinterpreted Mad Cheese, but the whole bin Laden thing while the floods were ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 http://m.cnn.com/primary/_MN65iV-isaA34nQdT CNN is all over this on their front page of their site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 http://www.mercuryne...&nclick_check=1 Bonnet Carre spillway has been opened to protect New Orleans, for about the 10th time since it's 1930 construction. The Morganza may have to be opened for the only the second time since it was built. South of Natchez, Miss., where the Mississippi is expected to reach its peak flow rate, the river will be split up in several ways to decrease its volume as it moves past Baton Rouge and New Orleans: By Friday evening, three-fourths of 350 bays of the Bonnet Carre spillway will be open, sending river water rushing into Lake Pontchartrain. And, as it has for decades, the corps will divert 30 percent of the combined flow of the Mississippi and Red Rivers to the Atchafalaya River, which will lead to flooding along its banks in places like Morgan City, La. Then there is the Morganza, opened only once before, in 1973. If the Morganza spillway were to remain closed, Walsh said, the river would overrun levees on a three-mile stretch south of Baton Rouge, probably inundating parts of the Louisiana State University campus. ... The partial opening of the Morganza spillway, which could come as soon as this weekend, would send a torrent of river water rushing into a shaft of south Louisiana that is home to about 2,500 people and the site of thousands of acres of farmland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Yep we hit the majic number there going to sacrafice Morganza to save New Orleans http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-05-13/morganza-spillway-to-open-when-flow-rate-meets-threshold.html Major General Michael Walsh, president of the Mississippi River Commission, has told Col. Edward Fleming to open the spillway as soon as the river’s flow reaches 1.5 million cubic feet per second at Louisiana’s Red River Landing, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said in a statement http://water.weather...&output=tabular 05/14 00:00 UTC 1500kcfs Forecast 05/18 12:006 4.4ft 1600kcfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 50% capacity is what they plan to use for now. Edit actually 25% capacity, Can't find a map for that. Finally senario 1A map released for 25% capacity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NODInundationMay2011Scenario1a.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msalgado Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 50% capacity is what they plan to use for now. Edit actually 25% capacity, Can't find a map for that. They should open it all the damn way in order to make sure they save the ORCS. If those go the entire nation will be in feeling it, not just Morganza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 They should open it all the damn way in order to make sure they save the ORCS. If those go the entire nation will be in feeling it, not just Morganza. Not needed by current estimates. 150 KCFS still gives them enough to save New Orleans and plenty of extra for insurance. No need to flood a key part of our oil and natural gas reserve with 30ft of water. Edit: Scheduled to open at 3PM CDT They should have opened it yesterday to get stress of the system as early as possiple. All forcasts said they would need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Mississippi River Project - Maximum Flood Capacity.. This flood is 88% of this scenario. Currently 2,140,000 cfs at Greenville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbTC Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 US ACE streaming live here when its opened http://www.ustream.tv/channel/morganza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southmdwatcher Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Here is another stream going currently. The spillway gate is open on at least one bay now. http://www.wafb.com/...-floodway-today .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 The inflow to the low sill structure in the old river control structure is showing steep drops. If this isn't just a measurement error, it could mean the old river control structure is starting to fail. This could be very bad, without that the Mississippi will change course. http://www2.mvr.usace.army.mil/WaterControl/shefgraph-wotem2.cfm?sid=02050&d=7&dt=E Of course, need to wait for confirmation of any such things before getting too worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 15, 2011 Author Share Posted May 15, 2011 The inflow to the low sill structure in the old river control structure is showing steep drops. If this isn't just a measurement error, it could mean the old river control structure is starting to fail. This could be very bad, without that the Mississippi will change course. http://www2.mvr.usac...=02050&d=7&dt=E Of course, need to wait for confirmation of any such things before getting too worried. It better not fail. that'd be the worst of both worlds. I am not sure which river that would empty down though On a side note in case anyone missed it. Have you ever seen both these headlines from one nws office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witness Protection Program Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 On a side note in case anyone missed it. Have you ever seen both these headlines from one nws office? Not that noteworthy, since Facebook is a relatively recent development... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 15, 2011 Author Share Posted May 15, 2011 Not that noteworthy, since Facebook is a relatively recent development... That was the NWS Shreveport homepage, not facebook. Edit: Oh I was talking about the Drought Flood headlines. The facebook headline just happened to sneak into the screenshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witness Protection Program Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Whoosh... Good map of areas to be flooded by the opening of the Morganza Kissing Bandit Spillway: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslkahuna Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 It better not fail. that'd be the worst of both worlds. I am not sure which river that would empty down though On a side note in case anyone missed it. Have you ever seen both these headlines from one nws office? It looks odd with the two headlines (flood/drought) until one realizes that one originated well upstream and the other is more local. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 15, 2011 Author Share Posted May 15, 2011 It looks odd with the two headlines (flood/drought) until one realizes that one originated well upstream and the other is more local. Steve I guess that can easilly happen along the worlds 3rd longest river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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