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Flurrries and 4F here now. We clouded up and had a half inch of fluff snow here in the pre-dawn. The low back around midnight was -8.5C.

The sub zero party was ended around here though as the clouds have now come in. Up to 0F now.....

The bottom has dropped out here. Down to -7F. I think we are supposed to get clouds later as a trough moves by....to end this free fall.

Hey Sean...glad you found your way over to this new BB . Wow Re: that -7F. I hope the pipes haven't already had a problem there - but no bad news from the tenant. Tomorrow night definitely looks frigid. Hope we get a good storm next week then.

Before we get to the storm....we have the bitter cold tomorrow night and Monday. I wonder how far below zero it will get in the Mid Hudson Valley. The NWS point forecast says -7F in Saugerties. I am considering going down and putting a space heater in the garage underneath our small house in Saugerties that we rent out. The coldest I have recorded there this January was -2F so it isn't the greatest radiational spot, but tomorrow night looks colder. Back in the super cold winter of 1994, we recorded -24F at that location. My all time record there was -26F in January 1982. In that 1994 outbreak some people in the coldest hollows of Saugerties had -30F.

Nuisance light snow here also ...all morning to varying degrees. A temprature of 30.7F with little movement since 8 AM. A half inch or a bit more of this on top of the sleet covering. But it is a beautful sight out there...true winter.

A FAIL for this event really.. ....2" of snow/sleet on the ground here as it winds down now. Very little FZRA fell so I guess that is a win. At times the sleet had a little mixed in, but not enough for any ice acretion other than the slightest glaze. 27F out there now.

22 and light sleet continues. I see a better batch of precipitation is coming north out of the Mid Hudson Valley. Strange that the best echoes have actually been from the Susquehanna region, western Catskills north northeast into the Adirondacks. This qpf max was unpredicted by the models. Meanwhile a paltry .25" (qpf) at best here since this began.

At this point we have very light frozen precip..snow grains and sleet probably. 18F. It really hasn't been doing much of anything since about 9:00 AM. This is starting to seem like an underwhelming event. I'm sure we haven't had more than .2" qpf so this could be a major model bust because at 0Z the NAM was forecasting around .8" and the GFS .6" here.

Moderate to heavy snow here and 16F. at 8:00 AM. About 2" on the ground. I just woke up so not sure when it started.

If the NAM qpf verifies ...I hope you guys have generators and chain saws ready in the Mid Hudson Valley. I think we are mainly dealing with a sleet threat here after the snow....

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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 423 PM EST MON JAN 17 2011 CTZ001-013-MAZ025-NYZ059>061-064>066-180530- /O.UPG.KALY.WS.A.0003.110118T1000Z-110119T1200Z/ /O.NEW.KALY.WS.W.0003.110118T0500Z-110119T1200Z/ NORTHERN LITCHFIELD-SOUTHERN LITCHFIELD-SOUTHERN BERKSHIRE- EASTERN GREENE-WESTERN COLUMBIA-EASTERN COLUMBIA-EASTERN ULSTER- WESTERN DUTCHESS-EASTERN DUTCHESS - INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...TORRINGTON...OAKVILLE...NEW MILFORD... TERRYVILLE...GREAT BARRINGTON...LEE...LENOX...HOUSATONIC... CATSKILL...COXSACKIE...ATHENS...CAIRO...JEFFERSON HEIGHTS... HUDSON...CHATHAM...KINGSTON...NEW PALTZ...POUGHKEEPSIE...BEACON... ARLINGTON...PAWLING...DOVER PLAINS...MILLBROOK...PINE PLAINS... AMENIA...MILLERTON 423 PM EST MON JAN 17 2011 ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 7 AM EST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN ALBANY HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR A MIX OF SNOW...SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 7 AM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * LOCATIONS: THE MID HUDSON VALLEY...SOUTHERN TACONICS AND NORTHWESTERN CONNECTICUT...AND THE SOUTHERN BERKSHIRES OF MASSACHUSETTS. * HAZARDS: SNOW MIXING WITH AND CHANGING TO SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN...POSSIBLY ENDING AS FREEZING DRIZZLE. * ACCUMULATIONS: POSSIBLY 3 TO 7 INCHES OF SNOW MIXED WITH SLEET ALONG WITH ONE QUARTER TO NEAR A HALF INCH OF ICE ACCRETION. * TIMING: FROM EARLY TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING. * IMPACTS: TRAVEL COULD BE SEVERELY IMPACTED. ALSO THERE IS A CHANCE OF SCATTERED POWER OUTAGES WHERE WET SNOW OR FREEZING RAIN MIGHT BRING DOWN SOME TREES...BRANCHES AND POWER LINES. * TEMPERATURES: STARTING OUT BETWEEN 10 TO 20 DEGREES...RISING TO AROUND FREEZING MARK BY LATE IN THE DAY AND INTO THE NIGHT. * WINDS: GENERALLY WILL BE NORTH OR NORTHEAST 5 TO 15 MPH. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW... SLEET...AND ICE ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. STRONG WINDS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE. THIS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS OR IMPOSSIBLE.

We had modest LES bands in and out all night. 0.6 of an inch dusting. So that didn't allow it to get below 10F. I drove down to Kingston this morning and noticed the trees covered in hoar frost in places where it must have got quite low.

Old news, but my final here was 8.7". Another moderate sized event here, however they add up and 37" for the season so can't say it has been snowless. And yes the Berkshires got crushed... Savoy at 41" seems to be the jackpot. As Andy noted in the other thread, the NWS ALB is heading to that area tomorrow to confirm for a possible 24 hour record.

Closing in on 7 inches here....long duration of mainly light snow (occasionally moderate) has added up to a respectable number. Steady snow moved back in here lately ...maybe southwest rotating around the low circulation. So another ENY scraper and NE bomb....

IMO this is another one heading for the snow bulls eye of the Hudson Valley and Catskills. I think when all is said and done LI has P-type issues. Maybe NYC stays all snow....

Still snowing good here now...echoes coming nw out of CT. Much slower start up here, but definitely over 4 inches now. I'll go measure soon. 19F.

3" here now ..still snowing here ...some moderate bursts. I was down as far as POU today and they had 4" when I left at 2:30 PM. I thought the most impressive snow was around northern Dutchess and southern Columbia around 4:30 PM. They probably got a good 6" total.... Also they still had a good amount of the old Noreaster snow left...can't be sure but maybe 4, 5, 6 inches survived the torch.

That was a fun storm. I got 46 inches total here. 19" in event #1 and 27" in event #2. But ALB got like a foot in event #1 and 98% rain in event #2.

That's cool... I like to take the Taconic up from NYC sometimes and yeah you lose all the traffic after like route 55 in Dutchess County. I like to stop at the Martindale Chief Diner where route 23 crosses in Columbia County. I guess you get off at route 82 (near that Taghkanic Diner). Sometimes I get off there and take 82 into 23 over the RVW Bridge and then 23 to 32 north and up over the Helderbergs Hill Towns to home.

Dunno, but POU climo records are kept by the NWS in Albany. Maybe on their website someplace: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/aly/ But generally they give the snowfall for a winter season as in 2009-10, 2010-2011. I'm sure you could access monthly climo records somewhere and compile a calendar year total. Caveat to that: I believe the actual airport in POU got a lot less in that February storm...... Crazy storm where northern/central Dutchess had mostly rain and southernmost Dutchess mostly snow

My family came out of Brooklyn and Queens and the diaspora began in about the 1940's. Now I have only a few cousins left Downstate. Some came Upstate such as my father and grandparents about 60 years ago. Others scattered all over. When people moved Upstate such as POU or Kingston in the 1950's they essentially became Upstaters because nobody would consider commuting back to the city. Now you have people commuting 75 + miles and tons of weekend home owners that are only part time Upstaters.

I have to go into the city on average a couple days a month. If I am really busy I will take a motel such as in Ardsley or like Bellerose, Queens and do a two day stint. I need to get documents for my research business at the courts etc. down there and some can only be obtained terrestrially. Also I occasionally have to testify in Surrogate's Court in one of the boroughs. I can't imagine how anyone could deal with that traffic and pace of life as a regular commuter. I am adept at it .....know the city very well all over, but a couple days is all I could take. LOL I can't tell you how happy I am when I leave it in the rear view mirror and keep driving further and further north.

Orange County is really a NYC bedroom area now I guess...though the west end you still see farms etc... Traditionally POU was about the demarcation point between ALB and NYC in terms of media, services etc. and most of Ulster and northern Dutchess got their tv out of Albany. Most of us had never seen a NYC station. POU got both.... Now at some point Nielsen designated the DMA's (designated market areas) and included all of Ulster and Dutchess in NYC Metro. Slowly they just kept shoving it down our throats and putting us in the NYC zone. They dropped the ALB tv stations in much of Ulster and Dutchess. A couple years ago the city run PBS station (13) forced the long time Albany station (17) out of the two counties where they had 50 years of contributors etc. Very few people use antennas so that was basically it. Saugerties and a few towns at the north end of the counties have an exemption to get ALB nets on their cable systems also. This extends beyond TV to every kind of service, etc....they always direct you to call south now to a Westchester or NYC #... even if you are in Saugerties (40 miles from ALB) and 105 miles from NYC. So it goes.... but anyway I live up here now.