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Well to start, there's this: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2103825?query=TOC However, that wasn't the article I was thinking about when I posted earlier. This article points to some data that shows that the immune system response is slightly more robust in individuals that recovered from coronavirus and then received an immunization, compared to not getting immunized at all. Peer reviewed, but small sample size (they were collecting cells directly from lymph nodes): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03738-2#article-comments But your data from England is more current. There's also another Cleveland Clinic article that is leaning towards there not being as much of difference between natural immunity and vaccination, similar to the English stats. I think this will get sorted out in the next year or so. Right now it does seem that the medical community consensus, as bleeding edge as it is at the moment, is that if you recovered from coronavirus, to get at least one shot, especially if you're in a more vulnerable demographic. I also think it's good news that the English research points to delta not really causing a high-reinfection rate.

Not really what I meant - you totally moved the goalposts there. Survival (noun): the state or fact of continuing to live or exist, typically in spite of an accident, ordeal, or difficult circumstances. Survival can involve a lot of misery. Humanity survived the Black Plague. But if I remember my history correctly, approximately 20 % of the world's population died from it. Most people don't want to just "survive" they want to live a comfortable more peaceful life. So yes, we've survived other pandemics and plagues in the past. But why can't we want more than just survival?

Most people want to live, not survive.

Lots of co-morbidities. And I think there are huge gaps in our healthcare system that always get exposed in these types of scenarios.

I wish I had links but I don't. I tend do a Google Scholar search when I read a normal news article that states "A study in the NEJM released today" blah blah blah. Sometimes it's only abstracts though a lot of the COVID stuff has been published full text online, especially before it's fully peer reviewed.

But I think yourself and others are already latching on to the fact that as this virus mutates over time, it will get milder and milder - as you said, similar to the flu. I think natural immunity plays a role in that, definitely. The immunes systems natural protections nudge viruses to evolve into weaker versions over time. It's kind of a cat and mouse game. I have a friend who is an epidemiologist and they are on board with that theory as well - pending research of course. But it's trending that way...

From the studies I've read, natural immunity is fine vs the variant you have had, not as much vs other variants. And there is concern as to ho long immunity lasts, since coronavirus as a viral family also contain virus that also produce some "colds". We'll know more as time goes on. There's tons of ongoing studies looking at duration and effectiveness of immunity (as well as vaccinations) right now. So far studies show immunity plus the vaccine as a booster is very effective in preventing yourself from getting ill, even with delta.

What’s poison? You’ve referred to poison a couple of times tonight…

COVID for me, COVID for you, gonna catch the COVID from my big brown shoe.

B-side of Paperback Writer. Great track! Underrated...

Indeed. The folks that jumped on the “vaccines cause autism” train were from all walks of life, including those that could be classified as liberals or progressives.

Except that’s not what the study states. They state that vaccines should be prioritized for those that have not had COVID previously. It states this three times. It doesn’t state that those that were infected should not get vaccinated. They do exhibit some skepticism in whether vaccine + infection makes a difference, but don’t offer any findings on that one way or another. Twice in the article it mentions their study doesn’t take into account new variants, also - and delta was just getting ramped up, overseas, when this study was published in June. My only conclusion from this study is that if I were part of the team deploying vaccines, and I was short on doses, I would use this research to prioritize those that haven’t had COVID yet.

Thanks for posting this. The HRRR smoke models are pretty neat. Sad seeing all that smoke blowing across the country. Is it enough where it’s starting to affect weather? Seems like large swaths of US and Canada have at least a little smoke at this point in the atmosphere.

“Like many of you, I have had a lot of misinformation thrown at me by politicians and the media during the pandemic.” Wasn’t she a politician? Who provided misinformation? Maybe not specifically during COVID, but you think with a line like that, her occupation was school teacher or bank teller. Boy she’s special…

I would complain but I’ve been told that if I don’t like it to not read it since it’s a banter forum.

Agreed. This team was built offensively to be a playoff contender as long as health wasn’t an issue. Pitching was always the big question mark and it still is. Still not sold this team can make a run deep into the playoffs but it’s becoming more convincing each game that have as much of a chance as any other playoff bound team. No one is really a juggernaut this season in AL or NL.

It’s foolish to think that it’s entirely over and it’s nothing to be concerned about, as well as that the next waves to come will be as bad as the previous ones. The truth lies somewhere in middle. Hopefully your thoughts on COVID continue to be as accurate as your thoughts on weather.

Just the variety you are able to watch now is insane if you have a streaming device. Between the NBC Sports Network app and the Peacock app, you can watch almost every Olympic event, live or on replay. In comparison, I remember when it was 'exciting' that they started putting the Olympics on a second or third NBC owned cable channel when I was a kid, so you could watch other events besides what was on the primary NBC local affiliate.

Surprisingly got hit with that cell that was racing southeast through RI. Looked like some sort of area of convergence was near me as you could see things moving in opposite directions on radar before the storm came through. They usually die out here but not this time around. Temp dropped as well...

Overall it will be a good year for sweet corn crops in SNE. My great-grandfather ran a farm for most of his life and this was the type of weather he used to talk about that was good for corn even though it was bad for other crops - excluding the areas with excessive flooding of course, where nothing grows well in that...

Beer and steak.