Iceagewhereartthou

Yep, ground truth looks pretty boring... https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/eb602afd025394430c5e94385851f7e41b5a87a50c740c08f14622c71976661f

Looks pretty boring for the next two weeks. Warming up over the week one period, that cooling but no cold. Too much rain showing up in my two week and not a single freeze. Hoping for a better pattern after mid Dec...

I was thinking that pink and green must be some BIG TIME cold until I saw the scale; green is only -3 c Still, I'll take below normal anyway and anytime I can get it!

I think we're all just being cautious and denying ourselves any excitement. "Wolf" has been cried too many times and the models have been too unreliable beyond a couple of days. We pretty much have to wait until cold is happening and snow is falling to have any confidence these days (unless you're over 3000 ft).

As a USC fan its sickening. And the fact that it's not surprising at all is even more sickening. The situation down there is a total mess and it never gets any better. They spend WAAAY too much money to not have a better product. I can't believe there's never been more accountability over the years for how poor the program has been compared to the investment.

Going below zero tonight? What is your lowest since you moved up there from columbia?

Why do us upstaters do this to ourselves?

If that's accurate someone's going to see a nice event. Must be nice not to be on the lee side!

Last couple of days wyff has headlines stating "bitter cold", and Greenville Online has one saying "extreme cold." Sorry but that is just silly. Below normal? Yes. But highs in the 40s and lows in mid 20s is not unusual even for the upstate in Nov. LOL at the hyperbolic language, other people around the country would be like ,"what cold."

I understand your point but token flurries, or even a shower with no accumulation, does little for me. If it doesn't accumulate it's more of a tease; kinda like the hot girl making you think you have a chance when you don't.

Unfortunately CAD events have become too weak, in general, and usually result in more sleet than snow. We used to get more overrunning event (Miller A type) snows but those have completely disappeared. The last one I can recall was Jan 2011, whcih was a nice one, but that's a ways in the rear view mirror. Our only other hope, upper level lows (March 2009) just haven't worked out and generally seem to suffer from warm boundary layers that limit accrual (see March 2009 again). In short, the upstate is an awfully tough place to see a good snow anymore.

CNN Headlines: Next Week's Weather to be Cooler Summit on Global Warming to Declare No Cold Records to be Broken Ever Again!

Yeah. No snow for me but will be nice to see the first real freeze, still got bugs around. Looks like a healthy front for Nov, but probably not approaching records in my area. GSP record low maxes for 13th, 14th, 15th are 40, 36, and 37 so won't be going that low (record lows are 20, 20, 17), and this will be nothing like the 1950 outbreak.

Yep, brings the Lee side screw job further north. That's what it feels like living in the upstate.

Lol. Complete clown that will never happen. Still, the models really pick up on that lee side snow shield. Draw a line from NO to MYB and you can really see the effect of the apps on our region. Cold has to be there first or forget it. I 40 looks nice though.

Western upstate skip job, bank it. I'll toss...

Looks like with the speed of this thing, the upstate wil be clear in time for trick or treating, but many neighborhoods and places have already moved it until tomorow evening regardless.

Can't wait for this front to get here, currently 71, while its 30s in NW MS. Unfortunately, it looks like it's going to lose a lot of punch for areas east of apps, not nearly as cold of a forecast for this side.

Get well Big Frosty; you gotta get into snow shoveling shape before long!

Would be nice but I honestly can't buy it, I think I've become a complete cynic when it comes to cold around here. I think this winter will end up a repeat of last year without the early Dec storm. We've been above average for so long it doesn't seem like there's any pattern that can deliver below normal for more than a random day or two.

Come now, you know Mother Nature can't compete with those kinds of unrealistic fantasy images!

Seems like they're just betting the streak here. The upper midwest/ northern rockies have been consistently below normal, with the rest of the country being above for the past couple of years now. Not only is this forecast not anything ground breaking, it doesn't seem like it would have taken too much thought or forecasting talent. "Hey, how are we going to draw our map this year?" "Let's just go with what's been happening over the past couple of years and call it a day." 60 seconds later: "Here you go boss." And my guess is this will be spot on.

So I've heard tale of this weather phenomenon that makes you have to put on a bunch of thick clothes so you don't shiver. No sweating and I think thermometers read, like below 50 or something. Anyone know what that is or what would cause it to happen?

You've pretty much nailed it. At least for the upstate, and points south, we've become a 3 season area. Fall: Oct - Jan. Spring: Feb - April. Summer: May-Sept Every once in a blue moon we'll tease with cold and possibly some sleet in Dec or Jan. You might could add: 10. Any cool/cold shown on modeling is just a tease. If it actually does happen, it will get pushed back for weeks at a time. 11. A cool/cold front means it will get us back to 30 year norms for a short while so enjoy it if it happens to you. 12. Every year we're guranteed at least 2 months where we think, "Man it can't be as hot as this month last year!" And then it turns out to be worse.

Something to get everyone in the mood! https://www.postandcourier.com/news/just-a-great-time-to-be-had-as-historic-snowfall/article_cfb30940-f0d6-11e7-af89-bf9556afe827.html Will those of us south of I40 see anything fun this winter? Will the upstate finally cash in on any of the fun those around us have been enjoying? Will it be record warmth wall to wall? Will Dec bring a third consecutive early season snow? (nah) Will Feb usher in a third straight "can't believe this is happening again early spring" Feb? (Probably) Will Columbia break it's snow drought? (last measurable snow at CAE was Feb 12, 2014; On Dec 1st it will have been 2118 days)