Carvers Gap

Haha. I was teaching 3rd grad that year. We ran out of snow days in Knox Co...like ran waaaay out of snow days.

The one thing that makes the Weeklies(any brand) fallible is that they tend to perpetuate the week two pattern - true feedback. That is why it is important not to put to much stock in LR ext modeling unless IMHO they change from that two week pattern. In other words, if the model doesn't continue in perpetuity...that is worth paying attention to. I have seen cold patterns modeled for all six weeks...not even make it into week 3. That also works for warm air masses. So, that is why I like looking at the control which is basically just one big deterministic run.

Cherry picking some stuff from the Euro Weeklies, though I didn't think the ensemble was half bad!

@nrgjeff, are the new AI ensembles decent? I notice the 12z GEPS and both AI ensembles (GFS/Euro) had a lot of cold members after 300. The Vols losing three straight was like looking at non-stop chinooks on modeling - same result, same set-up. We needed that Louisville shake-up(red like an NAO! - it's a sign).

I like it a lot better than 16 straight days of chinooks on deterministic runs. LOL. It might still get warm, but I gotta have room for some surprises.

The 12z Euro takes the GDPS/CMC route, and quickly establishes influence by the NAO, but it quickly loses it. I think modeling at 12z is on the struggle bus(not abnormal) w/ the NAO. I have seen the NAO absolutely wreck what looked like very nice, consistent patterns. It is a bull in a China shop. There is a lot to like about this still frame. There is a lot to not like about what happens next! Haha. But we take this over a chinook any day of the week. By the end of the run, the Euro looked to resolidify the NAO and swing the big trough east. Almost all modeling is teasing sending that western trough eastward. It "could" be too quick, but some the CMC and Euro are about 3-7 days quicker depending on the run. IF the NAO block is legit, it is going to create more wild solutions like it did at 12z. If we can get any help from the Pac....then bigger things are on the table. spell check will be the death of me....

Unfortunately, the Aleutian Ridge has been a staple of recent past Nina winters - the big red ball on 500 maps. If forces a Rex block. Models have a very difficult time "knowing" when it ends - much like the NAO. I don't think there is a lot of data in that area, and that can be a problem. It seems like the Aleutian Ridge has a tendency to disappear with little notice, and the trough kicks almost immediately eastward. Those ice and snow storms that middle and west Tenn have experienced occurred when that Aleutians Ridge pattern relaxed. It seems to me that usually occurs between the first and third weeks of January. I know some think the trough retrogrades and does not come back. If the NAO goes negative, that could balance things out. We lacked the NAO w/ recent analogs where the trough pulled back, and wouldn't budge. There is a lot of uncertainty going forward. I generally like uncertainty, because that leaves room for crazy weather. In winter, that could be anything from severe (which I don't like) to winter storms. I think the key going forward is the NAO going negative. It is the ingredient in many EC storms. That doesn't necessarily help you all just to the west...but it can force sliders in addition to coastals.

The 12z GFS has pretty massive feedback issues. I don't really have a problem w/ a trough off the West Coast - that happens. The 5-7 days of endless vortices spinning up just doesn't make sense. Just when I thought it had that worked out....it is right back to it. The 12z GFS really doesn't have a -NAO either. We need the NAO to establish HL blocking and force the issue I think. The GFS is just way off on its own by 300.

The reason I posted these is to illustrate that sooner or later the NAO is gonna put the squeeze on this pattern. The NAO is a trump card as is the EPO. If one is in play, that is a good thing regardless of the MJO phase, etc. The tendency is for the trough to find its way eastward when the NAO is present on modeling. The 12z GFS shows what happens when it is late to the party. The Canadian suite is most definitely the fastest flip.

The 0z GDPS probably had the best looks by 240. Trough in the East, split flow, -NAO...I wasn't gonna post it but might as well. To me this makes sense IF the NAO is legit. The 12z GFS is out in the weeds....

This is only ten days out...this isn't the Weeklies or 300+. That sure looked like it was going to slide the trough from the GOA right into the nation's mid-section. That ridge over the eastern Pac wasn't moving.

And, eh, not terrible...ridging in the Eastern Pac. I thought it might go to crap after this, but the NAO took a shot of the juice and the EPO fired.

I just wanted to introduce my new friend...

@nrgjeffif you are gonna give us some wx goods today, we must talk basketball. After a three game skid, the Vols finally showed some promise with that win over Louisville(though admittedly missing a key guard for that game).

There will likely be some model chaos(and even real time chaos) w/ two strong and very opposite teleconnections IF they verify. The Aleutians Ridge and -NAO are not going to play well together. I suspect we end up w/ a very similar pattern to what we exited, but maybe with the pattern being forced south of where it was due to the NAO and seasonal climatology. It seems like the Yukon will be cold and will send cold air southeast into a suppressed storm track. I do think ridges will roll through between cold shots. But we roll the dice and take our chances if that is indeed the setup. Suppressed storm tracks with cold involved...we take. The nice thing is that most of the models are eliminating feedback over the Pacific Northwest, and we can see what is a reasonable pattern unfolding. Infinite Baja lows and Pac NW lows.... I guess the question I have now is if there is feedback w/ the Aleutians low and maybe the NAO? Those are two other areas where models will sometimes under-do and over-do things.