RogueWaves

@michsnowfreak NAM caught on last-minute with a slug of moisture blossoming in NOH and coming our way before sliding east. DTX mentioned the convective nature of this final batch of plaster. I arrived back from travels to Frankenmuth just after it had ended so I missed out on seeing those more impressive rates. Still, saw an entire day of steady snow falling and temps well below freezing. Really, you would have thought it was January. Appreciate your photos.

If sig snow that early is rare air up here, what is it in the deep South?? Are we talking 80F one day, and snow OTG the next?

Nice! Over-performed slightly from all the guidance I saw.

Wow, never knew that. Here in The Mitt, the jack-o-lanterns had just gone dim when that freakish storm dumped 8-12" Nov2-3 of '66. Went on to be a yuuge winter for SMI.

Tru dat. Blame it on the NWS tho, it was their graphic I commented on. I hope December comes through for all of us. It'd be nice to continue the theme set by November.

2017 Best Christmas to NY's since Idk, 2000?? Iirc, KFNT's new all-time snowiest winter at 85.3" beating out 74-75 and 13-14 for top spot. Even in Marshall I had 118% of avg. Yeah, horrible winter..

Unfortunately, it's a pattern of cold NW flow mostly moisture starved clippers, and the risk is when/if it flips (nothing locks all winter) we end up on the warm side of hard cutters. Tbd ofc, but this gradient is very much like Dec 2017 so far.

Dig a little deeper and show me which of those top 9 winters went that way? Just to sanity check my own memory, I briefly peeked at the years noted during the last 3 decades for my former region in SWMI. Of those 5, only 12-13 came near normal, most were substantially below, one 94-95 was a horrid 56% of normal. Not snowless winters by any means, but it's a game of avoid the cellar dwellers.

Dittos, but you don't want to go too deep waiting on accum's either. Basically, any year starting post-Dec 5th was pure garbage. I'd rather not roll those dice. Y'all need something on the board at ORD, unless ofc, you're rooting for a lame-ass winter.

OMG the top 9 latest years are a set of winters to forget! Better get some snow action ASAP over there

Yep, caught my eye for sure. So far, looking like an eastern lakes kind of winter.

Reminds me of Jan/Feb '94 in NMI. -25+ departures in the two coldest months (not autumn) is brutality to the body and useless in the sig snowfall dept. I'll take a hard pass on experiencing that again.

Don't look now, but are we about to add onto KDTW's November snow total?? 6 more days..6 more ways. So, what is "avg" for Nov here anyways? 1.9" was mine back in Marshall where LES could contribute in many early season cold outbreaks.

Really tho, nobody's been getting buried in the CONUS, so if the Euro wants to put 6-8" here with the next couple weak NW flow clippers. Well, I may just be inclined to let it. Heck an inch or two this time of year would set the spirit of the season. Took me til Dec 29th last winter to see that amount.

Going to re-live the Dec 2010 nightmare, are we??

Exactly why I moved to the Northland years ago. Not always huge storms, but snow is happening every few days, including last night. Gaylord with 18" on the board already, and well ahead of normal. More sig SN very likely Sun night/Monday. PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT...SUMMARY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GAYLORD MI 1026 AM EST FRI NOV 19 2021 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON... ..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.... ..REMARKS.. 0915 AM SNOW 2 N KELDEN 46.24N 84.31W 11/19/2021 M8.0 INCH CHIPPEWA MI PUBLIC 0900 AM SNOW 6 W BARBEAU 46.28N 84.41W 11/19/2021 M7.0 INCH CHIPPEWA MI PUBLIC REPORT FROM NEAR INTERSECTION OF M-129 AND 15 MILE ROAD. 0745 AM SNOW 6 SE GAYLORD 44.97N 84.59W 11/19/2021 M5.0 INCH OTSEGO MI PUBLIC REPORT NEAR LAKE ARROWHEAD. 0745 AM SNOW 2 E OTSEGO LAKE STATE P 44.93N 84.65W 11/19/2021 M5.0 INCH OTSEGO MI PUBLIC REPORT NEAR CHUB LAKE. 0430 AM SNOW 2 NNE OTSEGO LAKE STATE 44.96N 84.68W 11/19/2021 M4.5 INCH OTSEGO MI COCORAHS COCORAHS STATION MI-OT-17 GAYLORD 4.1 S. 0700 AM SNOW 2 SE ELMIRA 45.05N 84.82W 11/19/2021 M4.2 INCH OTSEGO MI COCORAHS COCORAHS STATION MI-OT-19 ELMIRA 2.2 ESE. 0830 AM SNOW 5 SE GAYLORD 44.98N 84.60W 11/19/2021 M4.2 INCH OTSEGO MI PUBLIC REPORT IN MICHAYWE. 0700 AM SNOW 1 NW WATERS 44.91N 84.72W 11/19/2021 M4.1 INCH OTSEGO MI CO-OP OBSERVER CO-OP OBSERVER STATION APXM4 GAYLORD 9 SSW. 0630 AM SNOW KINCHELOE 46.25N 84.50W 11/19/2021 M4.0 INCH CHIPPEWA MI PUBLIC

I was a wx geek and remember the snow depth making national news. Same storms crossed NMI bringing insane depths there too. I just never did get the details on how exactly 2 big dogs hit so close together. Another wild thing on that list is that (3) calendar years (1940,1982,1985) tally up 7 of the top 10 events. The same as Detroit, MSP's top 2 storms happened outside of traditional MET winter. Though you could argue November is much more likely to be a winter month there than down this way to the SE.

Been thinking on this today. Recently moved from 20 yrs in SWMI and over there, the magic number has a lot to do with whether you are in a LES region or further inland. Even at that, Battle Creek and a bit west into Kzoo county had 28-30" during that January 1967 storm, and that was not lake effect enhanced as winds were contrary. Then there's Jan of '78 where the winds were favorable for the lake to contribute and thus some 36" totals were seen. There was even a small region south of Jackson that scored 34" in the '78 monster, and nowhere near a great lake. Marshall had 22" in both of the Jan 26-27 biggies, so for them a 2-footer is "next level" but I feel a solid 30" storm, lake enhanced or not, is looming out there somewhere over the horizon. Just so tough to beat '78 where the lake added significantly to hardest hit regions. Now for SEMI, they already hit the 24" mark way back when but I struggle with thinking that might repeat let alone something on the 30" magnitude. The Tri-cities region will get help off of Huron and Saginaw Bay with a strong NE fetch and there is historical news accounts that 30" fell during the 1857 blizzard. This I remember when reading in old newspaper accounts about the '67 bliz.

Thanksgiving week looks to have potential around the Lwr Lakes.

Steady snow falling for a few hours here. Eye-balling half(+) inch on grass and elevated stuff. Nice little event to transition from endless summer to winter in 3 weeks, lol

Drove over to Ann Arbor this pm, and only maybe 5 miles west you're in the country more or less. I was really surprised how all the color was already finished there and even the hardy oaks were mostly done or completely brown. That's the area that saw some 30's readings one cold morning way back in October. So far back I can't remember the date. Meanwhile, here in the cozy burbs, this past week-ish has seen a last minute peaking of color.

Four seasons playground. I did the move back in Sept of '90 myself. Never regretted it, and often miss it since leaving 7 yrs later for a nice job.

35F and mega-frost yesterday am in Wayne's World (aka Wayne Cnty) SEMI. Welcome to Nov. Welcome to autumn.

Now that's a legit lake shadow!

From past experience. No