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That period really was amazing and is what really turned me into a snow weenie. It’s not my imagination or cherry picked memories. When we moved from the Philly area to Central Ohio in 1977 I was in 7th grade. We walked to school and in the winter months, the walk was through snow on a regular basis, sometimes with brutal cold. Those type of winters seemed to become normal as we would skate on our pond across the street build sled runs and dump water on them overnight so they would freeze up like a toboggan shoot and build ramps for our sleds to jump onto the frozen pond. When it did get warm enough during a January thaw, it often came with melting snow, fog, and drizzle, and that was what seemed to be abnormal… whereas winters since then it’s the snow and cold that has become abnormal. im just glad I was able to experience that. I hope someday my grandkids will get the same experience.

just messing with you....

You sound like an ole fashioned CMH snow weenie… …it’s happening Josh…you’re in denial right now but fear not, the next stage is acceptance

Saturn's ring going negative?

Ok that's embarrassing.... no wonder the snow gods hate me, I'm a damn ingrate.

I don't recall that much about '13-'14 here. Was that the year there was a big cutter that went up through eastern IN sometime between xmas and new years and that's what really kicked off winter? If so, we were on the warm side of that one, I remember that one was a kick in the nuts, especially since it was around or shortly after the holidays.

...todays map says don't bother wasting your faith

for the Central Ohio locals....especially the ones like myself who have been around a long time, sorry to see Bob Nunnally passed away. Back in the day he use to do the weekend weather on local NBC. I remember watching the Saturday evening before the March '93 superstorm, he was the first to mention we could see a blizzard out of this even though everyone else was keeping it much further east. Sure enough I woke up the next morning to blizzard warnings. Granted, we only got about 4" of wind swept powder here, but didn't have to go too far east to really get buried. I met him once too, he was a super friendly, good heart. RIP

these one day brutal cold shots interrupting our 40s and 50s are annoying as sh#t. Like getting a bucket of ice water dumped on you .

the positive pna is about the only thing thats keeping us from a full on Dorch.

DT is your man this winter. Riding the positive TNH pattern for the winter which is what drove the winter of '13-'14. Good luck!

that's the kick in the nuts, and then when you bend over in agony the club to the back of your head is winter dragging through April.

Yea looking at the mjo it looks like it's been dancing in the warm phases for sometime and will continue to do so....and here we are facing subzero windchills tomorrow. OTOH the AO, NAO, and PNA, , (at least the gefs versions), seem to be behaving like what you'd expect with our actual weather. It seems like the opposite of recent winters, this time the cold is really fighting back. The eastern trough is stubborn as hell too, granted just a bit too far east for what's ideal for this sub. Personally it's too damn early for this. The ground is already frozen beyond workability. Last few winters the ground rarely froze beyond a week or two and it didn't occur until Jan/Feb. Maybe this is global warmings version of Dec 1989 and just like then, once the cold exits, winter's over. I wish.

Yea, looks similar here in the cmh area. Too damn early for this ugh.

Have you done a winter forecast yet?

I was in second grade so it's blurry ... seriously though, never even heard of a blizzard of 1864 or 1918. I'm gonna have to look those up.

Eh sh*t…. Messed that up. Oh well this thread will probably sink to the second page of the forum pretty quickly.

Oh well, this is a first for me starting this thread. Not sure where Steve is but I can't blame him or anyone else in the OV if they've finally thrown in the towel. So, let's see if we can log a couple a pages this winter! , and maybe a few pics of car toppers and heavy frost!

No need to, CMH climo has come to you. We're now Lexington KY

wow that's brutal. I like the comment where he says, "I think that might be too pessimistic". ya think? I don't know how it could be worse lol.

I'm sure cmh is just as ugly. But damn, 3650 would be 10 years....so their pretty close to hitting that. Even I didn't realize how bad the futility has been. I guess if there's anything good about these long strings of dumpster fire winters, its that our expectations are so low we're all pretty easy to please moving forward. No idea what to expect this winter. The only positive I see for this winter is the anecdotal argument that eventually something has gotta break our way, and maybe that'll be this winter. The negatives are many but I wonder if the drought is going to add more fuel on the futility fire. I no longer care about enso, teleconnections, analogs, or any long term forecast, they've all been trash indicators for long term winter forecasts. It's all a crapshoot and the only question is whether this losing streak has finally run it's course. My guess?.... not yet.

Yep. Although that rain we got from the hurricane remnants did wonders to green up lawns again. I actually had to cut my grass and bag clippings last week. First time in probably 6 or 7 weeks. Do have to admit we had a hell of a severe storm season in Ohio with record # of tornados, so maybe this calm is the balancing act for that. If that saying about the rubber band effect is true... this winter should be epic. Of course there may still be a lot of stretch left in that band.

got some rain....even down pours! Definitely too little too late for a lot of our perennials and some shrubs but I'll take it

Yep...the ole "JB pendulum swing". Does have some truth though. It's brutal here locally. They've banned charcoal grilling and all outdoor fires and lots of lawns are going to have to be replaced.

hopefully we can get something with the front coming through, although it's like spitting on sand at this point. Our drought is getting insane. Pretty sure large areas of our lawn are not just dormant but completely dead and will need replaced. This reminds me of the summer of '88 in southern OH....but it's actually worse.