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21 hours ago, brooklynwx99 said:

2018-19 had 20" and 2021-22 had 18"... below average, but not by much. 2020-21 had near 40", and then two duds in 19-20 and 22-23. that averages out to 17", which is definitely below normal but it's nothing that hasn't happened before

1997-98 to 2001-02 averaged 15", 1986-87 to 1991-92 averaged 17", and even a stretch in the 1930s from 1926-27 to 1931-32 averaged 13.5!"

so yeah, it's been a quiet stretch, but this has happened before, and we've also come out of the most prolific stretch of winters in history from 2002-03 through 2020-21. people just got spoiled and forget how it is sometimes

My snowblower has a pokeweed bush growing out of it.....and i don't expect to have to remove it this year. If people in the general public could actually read, they'd see that experts are calling for more snow in our area, as opposed to last year; that's a very low bar that is almost sure to be met. In general they don't say we should have a lot of snow and in fact, seem to be indicating below average, which has been my lifetime experience during most El Ninos. Somewhat below average would be a lot more snow to folks in the area, who have now had two years of little snow and will have forgotten totally how to drive in it or how much milk or eggs to buy.....( hint, you don't need to buy that much ).

8 hours ago, gravitylover said:

My wife has a handmade business and does craft fairs 2 or 3 weekends a month. Well, her income has been reduced by 2/3 since June. That hurts. My customers tend to do ~75% of their business on Friday and Saturday, as expected that's taken a solid hit so my income has also been fkd up. At this point it's too late to make any of that back as the outdoor season is winding down so for us at least, it's not just being disappointed. 

The fishing industry ( sport fishing ) has taken a huge hit as well. even nicer days involved an uncomfortable swell, and fishing has sucked to boot ( but that is for other reasons ). LI sound has been a little better with sheltered waters and better fishing, but people still don't come down in a deluge.

16 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

Some of the worst fog ive eve seen earlier this morning. A couple hundred foot visibility in low lying areas. TZ in that fog somewhere. 

Went out to sea yesterday....fished the middle between the Rockaways and Sandy Hook, used to call it the Mud Buoy. Weather was nice but there are still swells out there and it was all I could do to keep from hurling. Fishing, as it has been for years now, was equally horrible. All the fish are in LI Sound now, while I watched draggers cleaning out what's left over here. The ocean has not been flat calm in weeks ( swells are not flat calm ). Where is this photo from? We are thinking of running Hell Gate and heading into the Sound next time. Can't be any worse, and no swells.....

2 hours ago, MJO812 said:

Pouring here

My poor son has to drive into the Bronx fromNJ tomorrow; it took him 2 hours last week. Tuesday it took me over 2 hours to get from NJ to Manhattan. And then he has to go from Trenton to Queens by train tuesday.

It's pretty quiet here right now, thank goodness, but the backyard is a pond. I'm a little puzzled though, as to why people would be disappointed that we didn't have a biblical flood. I can sort of understand the allure of big snows; snow transforms the landscape and could look amazing. But too much rain offers nothing; already we are stuck in the house like it's winter when many of us would rather be fishing or hiking or taking in a live ballgame or anything other than sitting in the house, which is what many of us will be doing until April once mid Oct rolls around. We've lost a lot of the remaining nice weather except for a couple days during the week when a lot of folks are chained to a desk. In short, this weather absolutely sucks, and if I'm getting this right, doesn't look to improve much soon.....

6 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Glad you got your walk in before the heavy stuff. Great weekend for football 

Well I'm more of a soccer fan, but I think it's a good day to start packing up the summer clothes. And watching fishing videos online.....

3 hours ago, Allsnow said:

It’s  been raining here since 4am…

It was very light at Menlo early.. I was able to do most of my walk outside. By 10 am it was raining steady and that wind, while not gale force here, has got to be horrendous offshore.

20 minutes ago, psv88 said:

Terrible. Haven’t gone out on the boat since Labor Day. 

Same. Thank God I had a rental on Messalonskee in Maine this summer and the fishing was top notch. Didn't need a boat.But even the last trip there it poured like a tropical storm, week before Labor Day. Cold and wet and horrible fishing. had to cut the trip short because my daughter was in the ER; 7 hour drive. Never figured out what was wrong with her, they think it was a kidney stone.

19 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

The race or the precipitation?

Heh...the race. The surf will still be quite hazardous. It is already.

29 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

The fluke season was horrible this year and many days of rough seas 

I don't even bother with fluke. We were trying to get out for porgies, and they had closed the season til Aug 1st because the draggers are depleting them ( as they have done to fluke, winter flounder, whiting, and so on ) so of course shut the recreational fishery down, and the weather started turning to crap not long after. That species will move when storms keep rolling through. Hopefully some stripers will come in after the storm. Of course, new restrictions on them too, but I have bonus tags. We used to catch fluke right off Perth Amboy on the old Sea Pigeon. RIP Capt Marty Haines....they did a touching send off for him in NY harbor. You want fluke now,you have to go all the way to the old Ambrose tower grounds. Gets mighty nasty out there....

2 hours ago, winterwx21 said:

RGEM not impressed with tomorrow's round. Dries it up and mainly light rain during the day tomorrow with round 1. Not even a half inch for me. But whether we get just a half inch tomorrow or the wetter models end up being right and it's over an inch, I don't care. Either way it's a miserable saturday with outdoor plans ruined for everyone. 

Especially mariners. It has been a dreadful Sept. Again. Long swells, rough surf, strong tides. Then we start with nor'easters. You try to explain this to regulators who close fishing seasons til Oct and Nov and they ignore you. We are talking about throwing in the towel already.

2 minutes ago, Rmine1 said:

Regardless of precip, it’s going to be pure hell for those competing in the JB 1/2 Ironman race tomorrow. Imagine pedaling East on OP into 30 mph sustained. I was at RM3 earlier, and it was cranking out of the east

Surprised it isn't canceled.

37 minutes ago, Rmine1 said:

With each NHC update, Ophelia northward progress is slowed, with it dissipating well to our south. Seems plausible that the current predictions are too high 

We can hope.

12 hours ago, Rjay said:

I miss the cool late August and September nights.  We still get them but less often.  It's gotten ridiculous over the last decade. 

Not just that, but as a mariner I can tell you these constant disturbances, even the smaller ones offshore, really have changed things for us. We try to tell the regulators that closing fishing seasons in summer and opening them in the fall is not working for us, but they don't listen. Today we were set to go to Breezy Point from Sayreville NJ but had to cancel when the pea soup rolled in with 70% chance of thunderstorms on SE winds, plus an ongoing swell that is reaching inshore. I can take a little rain, but lightning and hail on a small boat far from home port ( a few miles is far when you're on a small craft and lightning is striking all around you while you get tossed about like The Minnow ) isn't my idea of fun. Plus, it is really uncomfortable out. I miss the cooler days of late Aug and Sept. Pea soup, thick fog and humidity and absurd temps make me want to hit the road for Maine....

1 hour ago, winterwx21 said:

Yeah looks as if the activity tomorrow will be isolated. Enjoy the game! 

I was hoping to get in some fishing off Breezy point...should I be concerned, since others are asking.....

48 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

I completely agree. Dewpoint of 66 certainly isn't low humidity. I consider that the high end of moderate, but that's much better than oppressive dewpoints in the 70s. I was just outside watering the vegetable garden and it didn't feel too bad. 

I had to use my inhaler after walking this morning.

24 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

GFS doing GFS things in the LR....would need to see other models with the same idea before I even remotely considered it.

Even far away they can be a problem. Seems there is an ocean swell for most of September these days, then we start getting Noreasters. Back when we had fish in the bay it didn't matter, but with most of the remaining fisheries at sea it really shuts things down, as we keep trying to tell the fisheries managers, opening seasons in Oct and Nov mean nothing as no one is fishing by then. There is nothing that will make your stomach churn more than a gentle rolling swell from an offshore storm. Nothing. 

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

Record heat in 1985 on this date.  could have been then.

I remember it well; was fluke fishing off Staten Island at the time. Back when you could actually catch something there. IIRC it was the dredge holes off South Beach.

5 minutes ago, Jacob brooklyn said:

That's why summer is not all that bad because fall comes next. 

Know what I'm enjoying? Telling everyone who hates snow who says" I'm not complaining" when it fails to snow that "I'm not complaining" that it's cool and I'm saving on AC and avoiding heat rash. It could stay below 70 all freakin summer as far as I'm concerned.

10 minutes ago, MANDA said:

Latest Drought Monitor released this morning shows abnormally dry conditions have expanded over the Northeast.  Notably over SNJ into SEPA and over southeast Maryland.  Hopefully the upcoming rainfall over the next week moistens things up.  Moisture over the Winter was adequate for most locations but certainly not excessive.  We're not exactly going into the warm season overly wet, at least as of right now.

Several brushfires in CNJ yesterday causing train delays. Had to pick up my son in New Brunswick and it took 90 mins to get back to Woodbridge. Just snarled everywhere. 

10 hours ago, Stormlover74 said:

Amazingly they only have 7400 people

And the reason is people hate the weather there.

10 hours ago, JustinRP37 said:

Yup spring break. But odd because it is over before spring even begins. I am happy though because spring is my least favorite season once the ski areas close up shop for the year. 

Don't ski. I do hike in the snow though and enjoy it, as long as it isn't the deep stuff. Looking forward to fishing season now. Tried watching the USA-Colombia baseball game as wife is Colombian and found out 2 things; if it isn't soccer Colombians aren't interested, and 2, I don't blame them. Fell asleep at 3-2 in the 7th and that was the final score. In other words, I don't look forward to baseball season like many seem to here.

3 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said:

I’ll take whatever I can.  Even if I have to drive! But seriously this was amazing today. 

Spring break? Daughter is in Costa Rica at the eco station. 

1 hour ago, Nibor said:

A snow weenie complaining that he doesn't get enough snow in the place that he lives which happens to be the greatest city in the world is the definition of a first world problem.

London and Paris would like to have a word...

20 minutes ago, CentralNJSnowman said:

Good chance that it's going to be well above 600 by the start of next winter.

Also, that first 'record' is only there because they started counting at the beginning of 1869.  Obviously there's a streak of 200+ days from about April-Nov every year.

Well all records are limited by recorded history or scientific findings. It's like saying someone has a world record in the 100 meters but we've only been keeping records for a hundred years. Maybe someone in the Roman Empire beat that record once.....