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37 minutes ago, Wxoutlooksblog said:

There's no storm east of here right now. All the action is well to our south. Storms that were developing to our nw are falling apart as the high pressure ridge builds in. But time is short for Central Park to get from their 1PM temperature of 78 to their expected high of 92. I don't think they're going to make it.

WX/PT

well, as someone who just dealt with a horrific situation in raritan bay a couple hours ago, i can tell you that there was no talk of thunder and squalls when we scheduled our trip; forecast was high of 97, sunny, light winds to increase out of the southwest this afternoon. instead we got clouds, lightning, pouring rain, and 5-6 foot seas with monstrous white caps. we are very happy to have made it to port alive. a 25 foot whaler was tossed around like a tin skiff. 

1 hour ago, Sundog said:

Electricity wasn't even that bad up until 2020. Then we decided that we need to get rid of nuclear, shut down fossil fuels too quickly, depend on slow to be built and expensive off shore wind farms, etc. 

What can go wrong!

nuclear reactors are catastrophically expensive, take 20 years to build, no one will insure them, and they are almost entirely dependent on government subsidies. and no one can solve the waste issue. and we are far behind on shutting down fossil fuels. does this site tend to attract the wingnuts, or what?

4 minutes ago, cleetussnow said:

NY isn’t off fossil fuels by any means, we just buy it from elsewhere.  We produce clean energy - but thats not what we use by and large.  NY has utterly lost control of energy prices despite having one of the largest last untapped clean energy sources in the US.  The propaganda is if the smoke came out of a stack in another state, it didn’t happen.  We believe it nonetheless.  

France has 60+ reactors running, with over 70% of their electricity production.  Amazing. Why cant we be like France.  Nice food too.  They are also the closest country in the free world to a fusion reactor apparently.  
 

I think nuclear return to the US though in a relatively short time in many states (never here). We just need to find scientists who will leave their countries and work here.  We don’t have strong nuclear programs in universities anymore.  (We do have strong gender studies programs though). The only nuclear engineers we have work in the Navy and they will be busy fighting China in a few years. 

yes, why can't we be like france...universal healthcare, paid family leave, paid childcare, free school lunches, free university, generous paid vacations, not one bankruptcy due to medical bills....sign me up. right now. oh, and better soccer, if that's your thing. did you ask about scientists coming here? is that a serious question? we are gutting science programs, because scientists discover and teach things some people don't like......we were on the cusp of an mrna vaccine for hiv, but it caused hives, a minor reaction that can probably be tweaked, and shows the vaccine was likely working. but it's been shut down. 

7 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

I have the heat on in my car

52 here

same here

will be in maine for memorial weekend. bringing insulated pants and boots.....

16 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I get that, I was just pointing out cool and dry is worse for plants then cool and wet. It’s tends to dry out the leaves regardless of lack of frost. Tonight is a great example, low of 49 forecast with a gusty wind. Not a great night for warm weather vegetables. Thursday nights forecast low is also 49 but it will be raining which will help lock in moisture in broadleaves like those of Italian Eggplant. 

the leaves will show cold damage on peppers and eggplants; it will be a silvery sheen; then those leaves will die off. if enough of them go, rip the plants out and start over.

2 hours ago, winterwx21 said:

Good luck with your crops. I planted my warm weather vegetables on May 2nd and they're doing great. Tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, zucchini and pole lima beans are all growing very quickly. I don't expect the cool rainy weather to have a negative impact on them. The cold weather vegetables that I planted in March are producing nicely. I've been picking a ton of lettuce the last few weeks and the broccoli is just about ready to be picked. 

Again good luck with your garden this year. You said you just planted and sometimes wait until June 1st. In my opinion that's a little bit of a late start. I always plant in the first few days of May and have never had a problem. Frost threats end in late April in our area. The earlier the start the better for the plants. I already have some small tomatoes on my plants now. 

i just got my broccoli in; it's a little late but we'll see. the first bunch buttoned; that happens from cold snaps followed by warmth. nursery took them back. i grow japanese eggplants and they generally collapse if we get a cold rain; same for bell and banana peppers. tomatoes are tougher. i plant zukes from seed and haven't done so yet. i have few bees so i plant self pollinating varieties, after years of no fruits at all, now i get tons. i'm also plagued by blights and can only plant certain varieties, like better boy or celebrity; in all the years, going back to the 70s, i have never had success with rutgers tomatoes, not even the new hybrid. can't grow italian eggplants either; the blights just kill them early. 

54 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Models are often overdone on winds....

tell it to anyone out on the sound or raritan bay, if they are crazy enough.....

5 hours ago, winterwx21 said:

It sucks that we're going back to early April type of weather for Wednesday and Thursday. It's going to feel miserable with temps only in the low-mid 50s with the rain coming down. But thankfully the bad weather is going to get out of the way in time for the big holiday weekend. That's the most important thing. 

and just after i planted my crops....for a few years i held off til jun 1st, but got suckered this year with some warmer weather. peppers and eggplants do not recover from that kind of cold. the nurseries and big box stores just keep selling the same people the same type of seedlings as the previously purchased ones die off....and yet my broccoli bolted early because it got hot for a few days. 

2 hours ago, Brian5671 said:

We have also simply gotten used to warmer temps.   A temp of 60 in March 50 yrs ago would have felt like an inferno-today it feels average

March was mild enough for me to put the boat in the water in the 80s; sometime in the 90s it started getting too cold. Even now, most boats won't start their seasons til April, or even mid April; 40 years ago they would all be ready to go in early March; some of this has to do with the collapse of various fisheries, but it's also weather related. 

4 hours ago, BxEngine said:

Oh its definitely too big. Get rid of jersey and we have a deal.

It is NEW Jersey; never just "Jersey." Carry on.

1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said:

 

Cincinnati with near 30, and I question that 20 inc average, it's just not real snowy there. I don't see my mom's hometown of Evansville, IN listed, wonder if they had more as well; there were times in the past when these cities were indeed buried, but it is far from the norm.

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

The whole experience with 4/82 had to do with temperatures in the teens in April with blizzard conditions.

3/93 to me was just a 10-12 inch snowstorm with windy conditions that changed over.

 

It was the ice on top; that was very rare, several inches of ice and so snow removal operations were stymied; I had to use a garden spade to dig out; people dug tunnels, in effect, in the urban areas to get their cars in and out, and it. stayed frozen for days. In Kocin's book, he has a phot of people trying to scale a wall of ice in Manhattan.

4 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

December 1992 was superior to March 1993 though.  Living through December 1992, that was a much rarer more unique more powerful storm for us.

If you like torrential rains and flooding sure, but I can get that with a summer storm. It had some flurries here at the tail end. There was also the Perfect Storm of Oct 1991, notable for the book and movie...but that was a, well, what was it really?

4 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

April 1982 I want to see that again, April 1996, April 2003 and April 2018 were also pretty good.

 

April 82 was a legit big storm and cold; the others ( 96 didn't even flurry over here ) were all minor events but cool to look at.

2 hours ago, EastonSN+ said:

This is actually an interesting debate on the rarity of each of the events. 

If I had a guess which one we would likely see sooner if at all would be April 1982. If I had a guess which one we would never see again in our lifetimes it would be 1993.

I think locally we will see a 93 type event here with less than a foot and mixing, but not one that is coastal and delivers 2 feet to Knoxville as well. April 92? Seen April events a few times, none like that one since; it just doesn't get that cold in April anymore. I'd pick OCt as the one we won't likely see again. 

30 minutes ago, Sundog said:

 Wasn't 92-93 not that good for the coast before the Superstorm?

We had a couple decent events and one very good one in Feb, followed by an incredibly warm day the next day. Still remember the music teacher being amazed at how nice it was outside.....he has sadly left us to play in the band upstairs....

3 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Yep

Might as well embrace it. 

47 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

feel free to name a march ku that happened after a bad winter

Name one that has happened since 1993, and even that one fell short of a foot. And that wasn't really that bad a winter, compared to this one. It's over. Who cares about a car topper or white rain? My hands are cracked, my skin is ashy, I'm done. Let's get a brief shot of spring weather before the cruddy unsafe lung conditions set in for summer. And that's probably asking too much.

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

 

2009

 

 

Was another disappointment here, around 5 inches; just a few miles north or south was better. 

14 hours ago, BlizzLuv said:

It's all about the shadows. My neighbor has a pile-o'-snow that is on its last legs too.

Go down to a local mall; despite the low snow amounts, the cold kept the piles around; there are mountains of black stained ice that should last a few more weeks. 

18 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

There were no scientific instruments to measure it of course but comparative analyses can be done between eras using tree rings and arctic ice core samples and even observing sedimentary rocks to determine when the largest storms or other events in a given era occurred.  There's a whole field called paleoclimatology that is based on this.

Using paleoclimatology we have been able to determine a giant hurricane (Cat 4?) hit our area in PreColumbian times (somewhere between the 1200s and 1400s.)  There is also evidence of a megatsunami possibly caused by a meteoroid strike (perhaps the same one that created Chesapeake Bay), it broke off into two pieces and one part hit down in the DelMarva and the other part hit near Toms River, the resulting megatsunami could have been over 50 feet high and left tell tale signs in the sedimentary bedrock of our near coastal waters.

 

 

 

You are falling into the trap of trying to present the facts,and assuming it will have an effect; it will not work. 

4 hours ago, NJwx85 said:

I couldn't be happier that this god forsaken Winter is coming to an early and abrupt end. My wife and I are expecting our third in early April and we're hoping for nice weather so that we can take him outside for walks.

i think I've been around since before you got married and Anthony was still in middle school.....and I still don't know WTF you guys are talking about most of the time, but it is fun to read. But a third one? Jeebus, two was enough to kill us. Still waiting for the younger one to move out. Oldest leaving March 1st.

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

The excess salt runoff into the local waterways has been a big issue in recent years with the increased road salting. I have actually been on the roads where trucks were leaving a salty dust haze behind them. The local car wash business has been booming up here.

https://planetforward.org/story/road-salt-contaminates-water/

 

 

Wonder what the effects on asthma are; we know that the drying Salton Sea and Aral Sea had profound effects on lung health.

7 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

55 

 

feels great after the cold winter we had 

Muddy dog paws though....

4 hours ago, psv88 said:

26 this morning, up to 43.

Florida is horrible in the summer. It rains every afternoon. Boating is miserable there in the summer. You are being chased by storms and when you are not it’s 7000 degrees and oppressive outside. Truly horrific and most people stay indoors. 
 

the winter in Florida is not great for boating either. It’s usually very windy and unless you are by the keys can often be very cool. 

We sold the family house in Hollywood in 2005 and never looked back. Nothing could make us return.