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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Nearly 6.00 so far along the North Shore. Station Number: NY-NS-32 Station Name: Locust Valley 0.3 E Observation Date 7/9/2021 9:30 AM Submitted 7/09/2021 9:38 AM Total Precip Amount 5.81 in. Notes Still raining heavily Taken at registered location Yes Snow Information New Snow Depth NA New Snow Water Equivalent NA Total Snow Depth NA Total Snow Water Equivalent NA Duration Information Precipitation Began -- Precipitation Ended -- Heavy Precip Began -- Heavy Precip Lasted -- Duration Time Accuracy -- Additional Information Additional Data Recorded No Submitted 7/09/2021 9:38 AM Flooding --- 587 replies
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
3.81 at the Wantagh mesonet with north winds gusting to 40 mph.- 587 replies
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
3.76 at the Wantagh mesonet with clearing to our SW.- 587 replies
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
3.56 at Wantagh since yesterday.- 587 replies
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
3.05 now in Wantagh with roughly half the total falling in the last hour.- 587 replies
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
I have flash flooding here in SW Suffolk with a small lake around my place in the grass. While the Wantagh mesonet may not be under the heaviest band, they picked up 1.00 in just 30 min and are at 2.50 so far.These are some of my heaviest rates of the last few years.- 587 replies
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Very heavy downpour here in SW Suffolk with flash flooding developing. Due to the tropical nature of the rainfall, the radar is underestimating the rate of rainfall here. The echoes in orange are more like a red summer thunderstorm.- 587 replies
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
0.91 in 10 minutes and 1.56 in 20 at the peak.- 587 replies
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
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Historic Pacific Northwest Heatwave of 2021
bluewave replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
The graph, shown above, looks at temperature patterns observed in the Pacific Northwest over the last 70 years and applies what is known as Generalized Extreme Value (GEV) theory to it. The fit, shown in red, looks pretty reasonable. 2/ One of the features of GEV is that it sometimes predicts that a statistical system as a finite limit. That occurs when the data presents a downward curving slope, as it does here. 3/ To be concrete, the analysis presented above says: In the 70 years prior to 2021, the worst observed heatwave for the region corresponds to an average of ~35 °C (95 °F). The GEV model estimates the worst possible is ~37 °C (99 °F). But in 2021, we reached 39.5 °C (103 °F). 4/ The GEV model said that 39.5 °C was "impossible", but it happened anyway. Now obviously, if it happened then it was actually possible, so what is it really telling us? 5/ It suggests that the 2021 heatwave may have had a qualitatively different origin or dynamics than all the other Pacific Northwest heatwaves of the last 70 years. 6/ That kind of thing happens sometimes with extremes in physical systems. For example, 70 years of normal rain data may badly fail to predict how much rain is possible during a hurricane, because a hurricane is dynamically different from normal rain-producing processes. 7/ The statistics suggest that the Pacific Northwest heat storm was not merely more extreme than past events, but perhaps also qualitatively different. So, *if* the event was qualitatively different from past events, then we ask in what way? 8/ The first option is that the heat storm was a proverbial hurricane, e.g. a rare dynamical interaction that has always been possible, but so rare that in 70 years of data we never observed a weather pattern that was qualitatively similar. 9/ The second option is that we are seeing unfamiliar dynamics because the climate system has changed at large scales in ways we don't yet fully understand. I consider this the scarier option. 10/ Right now, we don't know the answer. In all likelihood, entire PhDs will be written about the Pacific Northwest heat storm. But nature has thrown us a scary curve ball, and we'll have to wait and see if this was just an exceedingly rare one-off or a sign of more to come. 11/11- 323 replies
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Pretty good 12z agreement on the axis of heaviest rains right through NYC Metro.- 587 replies
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Central Park OBS since 1991 being much cooler than Newark is an illusion created by the trees growing over ASOS. When the sensors were free of obstructions like all official weather sites, NYC would be equal to or warmer than Newark on some days. The ASOS back in the 30s to 70s was in a more open area like the softball fields are today. That’s the only reason why the warmest week in Central Park can’t get warmer than 1977. Notice how our other stations have had their warmest week in more recent times. NYC ASOS beneath a dense canopy marked KNYC That area was more open before the tree growth of the last 40 to 50 years like nearby softball fields. Warmest weeks around our area Maximum 7-Day Mean Avg Temperature for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Value Ending Date Missing Days 1 91.2 1993-07-13 0 Maximum 7-Day Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Value Ending Date Missing Days 1 87.4 1993-07-13 0 87.4 1977-07-21 0 Maximum 7-Day Mean Avg Temperature for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Value Ending Date Missing Days 1 88.3 2006-08-03 0 Maximum 7-Day Mean Avg Temperature for WESTCHESTER CO AP, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Value Ending Date Missing Days 1 83.4 2013-07-20 0 Maximum 7-Day Mean Avg Temperature for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Value Ending Date Missing Days 1 86.4 2013-07-21 0 Maximum 7-Day Mean Avg Temperature for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Value Ending Date Missing Days 1 84.3 2013-07-20 0 Maximum 7-Day Mean Avg Temperature for IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT, CT Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Value Ending Date Missing Days 1 84.8 2013-07-20 0
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
This is a continuation of the stronger WAR with a more tucked in storm track like the last several years. New run Old run- 587 replies
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This reminds me of the Indian monsoon pattern. Record heat in June followed by heavy rains in July. It’s a Newark record for early July rain following 100°+ heat in late June. Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Total Precipitation Jul 1 to Jul 7 Max Temperature Jun 24 -30 1 1984-07-07 4.83 90 2 2021-07-07 3.07 103 3 1989-07-07 2.86 96 - 1942-07-07 2.86 88 4 2017-07-07 2.62 91 5 2014-07-07 2.60 89
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Gusted to around 40 mph here in SW Suffolk. Very heavy downpours with several close CG strikes.- 587 replies
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
LGA gusting to 58 mph. 06 Jul 6:31 pm 90 62 40 NW 32G58 10.00 Thunder, Squalls SCT065,BKN100,BKN250 29.91- 587 replies
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SVR-PRE (ELSA) potential NYC subforum Tue-Fri morning July 6-9, 2021
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Newark gusting to 58 mph. 06 Jul 6:30 pm 84 61 45 NW 43G53 7.00 BKN065,BKN100 29.92 29.94 06 Jul 6:29 pm 84 61 46 NW 43G58 7.00 Thunder BKN065,BKN100,BKN250 29.92 29.94 06 Jul 6:25 pm 88 61 41 NW 31G52 7.00 SCT065,BKN100 29.91 29.93 06 Jul 6:22 pm 93 65 40 NW 36G48 7.00 Thunder SCT065,BKN100,BKN250 29.91 29.93- 587 replies
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The ASOS is on a grassy area near the eastern edge of the airport close to a creek. Our local airports are similar to the adjacent neighborhoods. Newark and Elizabeth have been built up for ages like most of our urban areas.
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July 1953 also. Data for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Date Max Temperature Min Temperature 1953-07-17 100 76 1953-07-18 101 78 Data for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Date Max Temperature Min Temperature 1953-07-17 99 77 1953-07-18 99 76
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The only day that I can find was 7-18-77. Data for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Date Max Temperature Min Temperature 1977-07-13 93 73 1977-07-14 92 73 1977-07-15 96 72 1977-07-16 98 75 1977-07-17 97 78 1977-07-18 100 78 1977-07-19 102 78 1977-07-20 92 75 1977-07-21 104 78 Data for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Date Max Temperature Min Temperature 1977-07-13 92 73 1977-07-14 91 73 1977-07-15 93 71 1977-07-16 97 72 1977-07-17 99 77 1977-07-18 98 75 1977-07-19 100 78 1977-07-20 90 75 1977-07-21 102 78
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