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Herman Cain's death was completely avoidable, especially at his age and previous medical issues. It is just ignorance to put yourself in jeopardy like that.

Unemployment isn't permanent for one, and all that study proves is that the American worker is grossly underpaid.

In a global pandemic, the states take guidance from the feds on how to react. This time there was limited guidance at the start when there should have been much more.

Anyone who believes this was a "plandemic" is just an idiot. I have no other way to put it.

It would be because of our lack of response especially at the federal level. Incompetence all around.

That seems like an anecdote without any sourcing. And the second part of your post makes me believe it isn't true. Most testing places are drive up without precheck.

No industry is staying closed forever, the only thing that might go a bit by the wayside is the bar industry. Maybe that is a good thing, we don't need bars on every corner. The bar atmosphere has been going down with the current generation outside of colleges. Most everything else has reopened or working remotely.

People aren't quitting their jobs for a temporary gain. It is asinine to suggest that.

Yeah that region has been experiencing incredible heat. Baghdad has been 123 125 124 the last 3 days, 124 was their all time record until yesterday and that was set back only 5 years ago.

It could be a combination of both, lower income/blue collar people in general are more prone to having worse impacts of viruses as they don't keep up with normal checkups/maintenance.

The deaths here happened early when no one knew what was going on. Now we have a better idea on treatment which is why deaths aren't rising quite dramatically. They are still going up but no where near the magnitude of before.

It is a combination of several reasons, some of which you already hit on, keeping people home and keeping the economy from falling off a cliff. The other issues are the capping of unemployment is so low even in this state it is 360 a week. That is barely much above minimum wage at 40 hours. Combine that with other states where it is even lower per week. Also the expectation was this wasn't going to last just a couple of weeks and unless we want to see the middle class run into massive amounts of foreclosure or evictions there had to be more put in. This is basically money to save their houses though I do think 600/week is too much, I would go with 100% pay capped at 800 a week or current unemployment + 300-400 a week more. All these things combined would be why it is higher. The main thing is not killing the housing market because not only does that hurt those who get evicted/foreclosed on but that also hurts those who don't as it causes property values to plummet, see 2007-2009 for example.

Yep, and that 1200 dollars or more depending upon dependents was spent on things to keep the economy rolling. Hell my brother's family got $3900 with 2 adults and 3 kids. Of course they were spending some of that money on stuff.

They were still only 20-25% of workers in that range that were laid off though. It isn't as big as you want to state, no matter what you 'think'.

Bingo this is exactly what I meant.

Like mentioned above, most of those people were still working. Around 75% of all workers remained working.

I say that as a percentage of people, most people were still working and didn't get unemployed.

It could just be people who were working all along and now have extra cash as they aren't going anywhere or on vacation. I mean most people actually didn't get those unemployment benefits, so this could actually just be normal consumption.

Yep, and this is short term which is bad, we don't even know long term but odds are it won't be good especially with this many having issues.

Some but not all any probably no where near a majority, and even short term cardiovascular issues can be serious as can be. I don't get how some of you can be so cavalier about this. Also how is this report false, it was a direct study of 100 people who had covid, how is that playing into the hands of those wanting mass hysteria if it is completely valid. You guys are doing everything possible to take away the validity of something that should be wholly concerning to everyone.

It is 78%, It would take a great assumption to think most of 78 out of 100 had some sort of damage beforehand. Mind you this is a German study, not an American where our lifestyle is such that it could be possible though still very highly unlikely. Fact is covid can have a lasting impact on the cardiovascular. Just look at Eduardo Rodriguez for the Red Sox, he 100% didn't have any cardiovascular issues before covid and you know that because MLB does physicals on their players regularly.

That study had 78% who had some impact that didn't previously have that damage... Maybe they recover and heal but right off the bat there is damage post-covid which immediately endangers those who get it.

You honestly believe that people already had heart problems before this? I mean that is quite an uneducated leap of faith that isn't remotely based in truth. The cases here were post-covid with cardiovascular damage, and none pre-covid.

Dude you are the one beating the drum of people must work and the economy must go on. If anyone is taking anything personally, its you. Funny how me wanting people to be safe is somehow looked at as being a negative thing. Then again you are in a state with exploding cases but you could careless about taking precautions

But the economy...