Bubbler86

This site takes the Sept DP's and is comparable to May/Early June https://weatherspark.com/y/21982/Average-Weather-in-Harrisburg-Pennsylvania-United-States-Year-Round

The 850 positive anomalies are outrageous in conjunction with those temps. I checked out zone forecasts for Ok and Kanas, this Saturday, and they are 10-20 degrees lower.

I am not even sure it would be helpful to gather info on the highest DP of a given day. Rain causes the RH to go up obviously but raining into relatively dry air at the surface will cause the temp to fall and DP to rise a bit. So we could have a day with DP's in the 50's, we get a shower, and the DP rises to the 60's for a bit and then back down when the shower is over...but that day is then recorded as a 60's DP day.

I thought you meant public. LOL. They never opened the Caledonia pool this year due to labor (I was told).

My take on your first question is that DP's are not relative to only being high in the summer. But I do not have any stats to back up the average amount of days the DP stays at 60 or below in each September. I would think the mid 20's in the map below is a bit below normal. Question 2...if we do not concern ourselves then nothing to talk about I guess.

That is less due to temps and more due to low wages :-). Not pay $20/hr (or in that area)? Not gonna have life guards.

And I have been focusing on the temps since the departures were the point of conversation a few weeks ago. I realize you want the DP's. LOL. Quick scan and MDT has a 60 or lower DP at some point each of the next 7 days and Pit the same just one day less at 6. The coldinista's win Early and Mid Sept if those maps are right though it would probably be better to say averaginista. .

I did just notice MDT only made it to 60 last night (below normal but...) while areas within 15-20 miles of them were in the low 50's.

I was comparing it to the 90's from the Euro a day or two ago. Its certainly a muggy and less than perfect depiction regardless. Verbatim MDT should go into next week with a departure of negative 1-3 degrees and then it will be a battle to see where it ends by the end of the third week. Probably somewhere between -1 and +1 just using these temps and assuming they are close to being right. There is one day next week where MDT is just barely at 70 at 18Z. Yours would be quite a bit higher verbatim on this run.

I think MDT has quite a bit of Northeastern influence on this run as the 18Z Temps are only above 80 five days the entire run and that includes this Sunday and Monday so only 3 days out of the final 10. It's not chilly though and above normal night time lows especially at the end.

Not too shabby. Highest 18Z Temp at MDT is 85. I think KPIT had an 87. Night time lows go back and forth from just above to just below average until the end when they are above average a bit more solidly. We cannot ask it to stay below 80 every day, right?

12Z GFS continues to forecast a Chamber Of Commerce weekend coming up (to help drown our Labor day is over blues.) Highs in the 70's Saturday and low to mid 80's Sunday. Low DP's and dry. DP's tickle 60 on Sunday. Sat Am starts off in the low to mid 50's.

HRRR and 3K Nam are both fairly impressed with a robust albeit quick hitting line of severe. Could see watches. The 3K in particular suggests it will a fairly well defined line that gets most at least wet.

I looked at LNS and York and it was not too far off. I am thinking some of the previous nights lows were a bit higher than modeled or forecasted due to clouds hanging on.

MDT stuck it to me yesterday getting quite a bit warmer than forecast so they got a little above normal.

Not taking time away from Labor day to study models but a quick peek at 2M temps on the 18Z GFS shows much above normal temps in the S/E next week so I am guessing much of the discrepancy is based on the advancement of that area (or lack of). I will take some Labor Day time if Blizz has any drought concerns. I can help him map out his plan of attack to keep the grass alive.

The NWS Zones are out through 7 days from now (Sept 13th) and using that along with predicted model temps, its possible MDT stays at or below normal every day of the first 13 days of Sept. Might be close a couple days to nudging slightly above but if they accomplish even 11 or 12 of the first 13, that is quite the nice streak.

I took your word for it as you are spot on with the model interpretations. MDT specific, its rare that we do not get one 90's day in Sept (though last year I think 85 was the highest if I remember correctly).

I did not look at the EC but the latest CMC and GFS are having none of it (90's) so still up for grabs. Upper 40's and low 50's tonight :-).

Yanks are fading again.

Blizzard of '93: President of the Bedford Area Water Preservation Society. Won"t someone think of the Bedfordians!

Or a couple counties to my left in Bedford, PA. This was pre Ida though so I suspect they withdraw that one though the conditions in WV may not have improved enough to withdraw, unsure. Different kinds of droughts and an agricultural drought is only helped so much when 5" of rain falls in a day.

You make it sound like we issue the drought maps. I did enjoy a lot of free time not being saddled with Marysville twice a week mows.

Rain hung around the M/D line after that first area went through this AM.

Even if we split it mid way and have "normal temps", its better than the hot GFS from a few days ago I think. Sunny and low 80's is quite nice for Sept :-). I did not look at the EC but CMC has one day about 85 at MDT over the next 10.