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Yeah it's been said but truth of the matter is we've really been in the time period where differences are going to occur. It's not highly common to see model-to-model consistency or even run-to-run consistency 4-5 days or sometimes even as little as 3 days out. I think some are just a bit overanxious. If one just looks at SLP/QPF alone these differences and inconsistencies seem much worse than they really are. As stated several times, very subtle differences between the key features in the mid-levels will have big implications at the surface. The changes needed to get a major storm for the majority of the region are very small. In fact, there is probably a higher chance the majority see a major storm then the majority not seeing a major storm. The biggest takeaways (even with yesterday's runs) is each subsequent and model has had improvements with the key features...whether or not that translated down to the surface is not very important at the time range (but will get more important today). It's all good and fun b/c it's discussion but we all have the tendency to focus too much on certain details in time frames we really shouldn't be.
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I think the typical consensus is once you start getting inside of 3 days so probably pretty close. But because of the continued uncertainties they might be useful even inside day 3. This is because if you have more members leaning in one direction, even if it's opposing the op, it may be hard to ignore that probability.
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The freakouts are getting a bit ridiculous. This is still really 2.5+ days away. I know it seems plausible to want to see such strong agreement and consistency but the truth of the matter is we're still within the time frame where subtle differences are going to occur. Forgetting about these east vs. west swings, at the end of the day, we're not asking for significant changes here. For things to come together and be a very high-impact event for most...it's not like a ton has to happen for that to happen. There is a difference in needing drastic or substantial changes and very subtle.
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I was thinking about this on the drive home. Hasn't there been a tendency this year for models wanting to hold back energy into the southwest? Completely different season and all but I remember many convective events where there was potential for you're higher end severe setups but there was always hesitancy from the SPC to go higher probs in the D3-8 range b/c of the models holding back energy in the southwest...but as we got within 2-3 days all of a sudden models sped up energy. I think this was the case too even with the December outbreak and also with several systems that have traversed the south in the fall and even winter. This is just based on memory so there may be some data to debunk this.