powderfreak

59/51 at 7am this morning. 58/41 at noon with gusty NW flow. CAA at its finest. Seems to be off-setting any insolation so far and dews are plummeting. Midnight high temp of 65F.

Oh the difference is likely at least that much on most clear calm nights. At my house I can be up to 10 degrees lower than the base of the ski area at 1,500ft sometimes where it's almost always mixed at least a little with mid-slope climo. The inversion level is often right around 1,000-1,200ft. I'll leave in the morning and it could be 32F only to find it's 40F up there with a breeze. Then it'll be 60F there in the afternoon and 65F at my place. You can actually see it in the MVL/MPV normals around here... MVL is 700ft and MPV is almost 1,200ft but because the overnights on clear nights can be colder, the daily mean temperatures are pretty even. One site gets a degree or two lower for the mins and the other gets a degree or two lower on the maxes. Alex is still at just over 1,500ft so even his daytime temps stay pretty cool... he really found a cold spot there. Pretty crazy little microclimate.

Pretty strong ensemble support. That's a "shot across the bow" if we haven't seen one yet, ha.

Man, 6z GFS is real cold. 00z EURO also with a strong sub 0C 850mb shot too.

Either way, you can see how confused it is in Northeast and New England... supporting the idea that other factors matter more than ENSO, or at least that the signal is fairly muted and could go either way.

Busy day of rescues in the White Mountains yesterday... From NH Fish and Game: Two National Guard Helicopters Assist Fish & Game with Simultaneous Hiker Emergencies in the White Mountains Franconia - At 12:49 p.m. Saturday afternoon NH Fish and Game Conservation Officers were alerted to a hiker suffering from a medical emergency at the summit of Mount Lafayette in Franconia. Two phone calls had been placed to 911, one call went to Vermont 911 while the other ended up going to Maine 911. Both calls were eventually transferred to NH 911 when it was learned that the calling party was in New Hampshire. The calls were eventually dropped but it was learned that a nurse who was on scene had advised of a male who was suffering a serious medical episode. Calls to the reporting party went unanswered. It was decided that the caretaker at the AMC Greenleaf Hut would hike up to the summit to determine what was going on. As the caretaker was preparing to head to the summit the stricken man arrived at the Greenleaf Hut after being assisted by other hikers. Upon arrival at the hut the man suffered another medical episode. It was determined by other hikers who had medical training that it would not be safe for the man to continue down the trail without assistance. Greenleaf Hut is located about three miles from the trailhead and would have taken 7 or 8 hours for rescuers to respond and carry the hiker down. A call was placed to the NH Army National Guard to determine the possibility of a flight to Mount Lafayette, as their crews were already preparing to handle another medical emergency atop Mount Jefferson. By 3:00 p.m. two flight crews had been assembled and two separate Blackhawk helicopters were taking off from Concord responding to both emergencies in the White Mountains. At 3:30 PM the first Blackhawk arrived at Greenleaf Hut and lowered a medic by hoist. At 3:45 p.m. the hiker and medic were hoisted back into the helicopter. The hiker was flown to Concord Hospital for evaluation. The hiker, identified as 50-year-old Patrik Svenson of Needham, MA had departed earlier that day in an effort to complete the Falling Waters/Bridle Path Loop. He completed 4.9 miles of the 9 mile hike he had planned when the medical episode occurred while he was on the summit of 5,260 foot Mount Lafayette. Thompson & Meserve’s Purchase – A Massachusetts man died after suffering an unknown medical condition while summiting Mt. Jefferson on Saturday afternoon. Officials say that a 60-year-old hiker from Mashpee, MA was hiking in a small group when he suddenly collapsed just before 2:00 p.m. Several Good Samaritan hikers, many who were in the medical profession who witnessed the event immediately started CPR and called 911. Fish & Game Conservation Officers were alerted to the emergency and started the rescue response. Due to the nature of the medical emergency, air support was requested from the National Guard unit from Concord. They responded by scrambling a crew as quickly as possible, getting a Blackhawk helicopter in the air and flying north from Concord. At the same time they were requested for another emergency hiker call on the summit of Mt. Lafayette. Fair weather conditions and the seriousness of the hikers’ conditions played a major role in the use of air support during these rescues. The National Guard helicopter crew arrived on scene and was able to extract the hiker from the summit of Mt. Jefferson by hoisting him up into the aircraft using a winch; a manuever which did not require a landing. Unfortunately, despite all the exhaustive efforts by fellow hikers providing constant resuscitation for nearly 2 hours and the arrival of the National Guard helicopter, he did not survive. The hiker, whose name is being withheld pending notification to family members, was experienced and in good health prior to his collapse.

0.22” last 24 hours... still solidly less than a half an inch total this entire month. Almost unheard of here but September is a good time for San Diego weather.

Speaking of mowing, hats off to the guys who weed-wack the ski trails up here that are too steep to mow with a tractor. Just start at the top and walk down cutting everything to the same length.

Maybe some frost/freeze Monday night? “High pres directly overhead on Monday night and light winds/clear skies, expect areas of frost to develop, especially away from Lake Champlain. Frost/freeze headlines are likely for portions of the area with temps ranging from mid/upper 20s NEK/SLK to l/m 40s near Lake Champlain by Tues morning.”

Sounds like the lawn might be more important than drinking though... can always buy bottled water, ha.

Looks like we’ll pick up about two whole tenths of an inch of rain. Put that in the win column.

Hey it’s actually raining! It’s been a long time up here for this climate, feels like it’s been weeks.

Our country has been pretty disrespectful to many groups of people but yet demand they respect it...it’s a give and take, respect gets respect... but yes, to each their own. Clouding over, rain into BTV and a few sprinkles starting on the hill.

Oh yeah I’m a big fan of shorts for as long as possible. It was just the dichotomy between sunshine and 50s is warm enough for shorts vs. it’s too cold in July if the dew or temp goes under 70F.

Says the guy who complains about it being cold and having to put hoodies and warm clothes on if the temperature drops below 70F in the summer...

Welcome dude, the more the merrier up here. Beautiful spot you live in over there, true Gods Country Vermont.

I wish I read more Don Sutherland these days. A true contributor.

That was back when one forum covered the entire east coast... from (an other) Will way up in Fort Kent, ME at the northern tip of the northeast, all the way down to at least Ashville, NC (there was a common poster down there, name started like HKY?). One forum with all sorts of climates, and somehow it worked at that time. That was when the early internet hadn't figured out trolling or been comfortable enough with joking around as much.

Ha! That was the dude. I thought for a moment maybe RUGGIE or something, so many older names bring back memories of that era.

Didn't he actually have the ruler upside down one time or something like that? I remember someone really doing that from back in the day. That was like the WrightWeather BB days. Edit... maybe it was RUGGIE?

Really? That seems awful early. How can you know what's going to happen in Jan/Feb/Mar... as you guys well know, all you need is a great 6 week period to epic town. 2014-15 would've been a ratter without that blitz. What was the verdict in November going into that?

Yeah we are adding ranks to NNE posters in this general climate zone along the N/NW flank... need more still. It’s nice slowly getting away from the super small circle jerk of like me, J.Spin, and mreaves chatting with each other before we got Alex. Now we get Phin. We are getting more mainstream, ha.

What will you know in two months?

Can't wait for these days... temps in the 30s this morning got me stoked.

That's how they do it out west... don't get much if any rain all summer, then hammer out 25-40" of QPF as snow in the winter months. That's the ideal way to run it.