That was a coastal storm that back in NW off Nantucket. This is sort of different in that it acts more like a cutter initially. But, it has some warm core characteristics.
The euro verbatim is real nasty in ern areas.
I think most said closer to the 20th or after even late Novie. I did think we'd have some chances (even of light) before Christmas, but that didn't happen really. Unless we hope some crazy think happens next week.