I just mean more or less the area by AK for example. That is a region in the Pacific where winter can be correlated rather highly. If we have a large area of low heights from the Bering Sea to the coastline down into the NW US...you can close those shades no matter what. We’ll be on a CONUS wide Chinook. Only the ski areas out west will benefit. With the NAO, a - NAO can help, but I think we obsess way too much with this index. Even if it’s positive, we can be ok at our latitude with a sufficient Pacific. Sure you play with fire, but a +NAO isn’t as bad of a death sentence as a +EPO is with an ugly AK trough. Like any pattern, there are flavors where certain stereotypes don’t behave as traditional thoughts go. 07-08 said that maybe a -PNA isn’t so bad given a well placed dateline ridge and vortex to our northeast. Last year was a decent Pacific, but we were just a bit unlucky in SNE with wavelengths.