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Hey hey looky here….lol!
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1 minute ago, ncjoaquin said:
That's what's unreal. If this one doesn't mix, this could be one for the ages. Hoping to avoid this dry slot also.
Awesome Jason! pics?
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Congrats to all of you!!! To say I'm jealous would be an understatement. Keep the obs, pics, & vids coming.
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Downstream obs from Navarre in the W FL Panhandle. Storm is over performing. Already with 1.17” & more to come.
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Isn’t it sustained >25 for 24hr or is that just down here in Piedmont? That may be wrong too though
Sustained 35 mph with 1/4 mile or less visibility for at least a 3 hr period.
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It’s basically go time now. Model watching is about over. If I was up there I’d be looking at the strength & placement of the HP & watching the track, speed of the developing LP.
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You can Blame Cantore for the Frz rain in Asheville, as he's headed there lol
TWC has boots on the ground in AVL already, Felicia Combs reporting this morning.
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Sometimes it’s a good idea to look at things downstream. This is part of MOB’s morning disco. I’d recommend reading the rest as they’re a damn good crew. This is what you want to see for a bigger Mnt/FH snow!
.NEAR TERM UPDATE /Now Through Sunday/...An upper level shortwave
trough dives south over the Plains tonight, organizing into a
closed low as it moves. The upper low moves east over the Lower
Mississippi River Valley to over the forecast area by Sunday night
as a decreasingly positively tilted system, then increasingly
negatively tilted as it moves east of the forecast area late
Saturday night through Sunday. A surface low that has developed
over Texas this afternoon moves east-southeast along the northern
Gulf coast to over the forecast area by early Saturday evening. A
weak warm front organizes along the Gulf coast tonight ahead of
the approaching surface low, but with relatively weak low level
southerly flow ahead of approaching system, the front will remain
along the coast. A strong cold front moves east over the forecast
area beginning Saturday night, ushering in a colder and drier
airmass.
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3 hours ago, Maggie Ace said:
Boom for you guys! The big boys at WPC put no stock in the quirky NAM runs. that low track is gonna be gold for the Mnts. I wouldn't fly over the cliff because of lower qpf totals in some areas. This tends to happen with models as the event draws near. Often times it's closer to the earlier higher totals. As with every big Mnt snow event the totals will vary wildly. Good luck to all of you!!!
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I think the rates will overcome any sort of warmth in the mid levels for most in the Mnts. Also bear in mind the higher elevations will likely be looking at maybe a 12-1 vs 10-1 ratio if the temps maintain a upper 20’s profile.
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Can’t wait to read the AFD from the NWS. I’d imagine warnings would be going out tonight or in the morning?
Normally would be the overnight tonight/tomorrow morning. With how early they put out the watch I could see a portion of the watch going warning this afternoon.
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It’s looking great for almost everyone in the Mnts & Foothills. As for the FBRV snow hole Jason made some great points. I’ve seen it be way overdone by the models with this set up. Not saying it’s not correct but I’m skeptical it will be as dramatic as depicted. As always with SE snowstorms nothing is certain but as far as modeling, setup’s, ect it doesn’t get much better than this!!! Strap in fellas it’s gonna be a wild one.
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By the way, we’re heading to Black Mountain. For many reasons:
- Happy wife, happy life. =)
- Cousins with whom the kids can play in the snow.
- (Who am I kidding? I will also be playing in the snow.)
- Pretty much guaranteed snow for the duration of the event.
- 8-inch floor, according to the graphic posted above.
- Monumental snowstorm experience.
Congrats!!!
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This is as aggressive as I've seen GSP in a long time with a watch.
I’ve never seen them pull the trigger 5 shifts away from an event!!! The wording in the disco suggests at this point it’s not a question of if but how much. They also usually start conservative with totals but not this time!
Curious to see what Jason Boyer’s tune is after this?
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This was the biggest one for me while I lived up there 18” at my place off of New Stock Rd including flow snow. We were lucky to lose power for only 54 hours. It looked like a war zone with abandoned vehicles & trees down everywhere!
https://www.weather.gov/gsp/18-20DecemberWinterStorm
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The only area in the Mnts where their might be any issues would be the extreme SW Mnts. Hayesville, Murphy, Andrews corridor at lower elevations. This area can be susceptible to missing the CAD. Possibly some mixing issues in this locale depending on micro climate, low track, ect. Obviously with varying amounts, the rest of the Mnts show a real possibility of getting clobbered!
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My wife wants to let her mother know as soon as possible. Probably by tomorrow afternoon we should have it finalized.
- NW Hickory, approximately one mile from Alexander County line.
- Between Black Mountain and Swannanoa, near Owen HS.
Man, that’s a tough one! You could get a great dump at home. The in laws spot is not that prone to dry slotting plus it’s a good spot for some flow snow. I think they will get a big one. As I said either will be a win for you with this system. I’d definitely be gathering info (models, afd’s from all the Offices around you GSP, Blacksburg, Raleigh) and make that final decision as late as possible. Sage advice from Octopus, & go with your gut.
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I would love your guys' perspective on this. Here's my dilemma:
- There's nothing like seeing it snow/sleet/whatever in your own backyard, and Hickory has a good chance to get walloped.
- My in-laws have welcomed us to come spend the weekend with them in Black Mountain (due east of Asheville on I-40, just up Old Fort Mountain).
- Staying at home and seeing 6+ inches of snow, with an inch or snow of sleet, followed by a deform band with more snow IMBY, OR
- Traveling to in-laws and seeing a pure snowstorm with likely 12+ inches of snow on the ground, but they might get downsloped a bit by surrounding mountains.
What are your thoughts?
What’s the timeline, when does a decision have to be finalized? If you have time follow the model trends. Depends on what part of Hickory & what part of Black Mountain. I’d wait as long as possible to gather the most info then make the call. The great thing is either way will be a win!
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Good morning folks!, this is shaping up to be a nice thump for most of you. Still a ways out but I’m loving the trends for heavy snow even in the foothills. Of course it’s all up in the air because it’s the south. I love living at the beach but not gonna lie, this is one of those times I wish I was in the mix with you all. Just gonna have to settle for the vicariously route with you!
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I really like this setup for you Mnt peeps! Close call either way for areas surrounding the Mnts. Still time for changes to occur but this is shaping up as a pounder.
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Morning folks!, I’m checking in with my eyes on the system. I think the 6Z is over doing the ice for most of the mountains . Obviously the escarpment and foothills are susceptible. Lots of time for adjustments to come. Remember not to get to caught up on one model or run. Don’t forget about synoptics when you look at the big picture. Buckle up for a wild couple days…..my favorite part of winter storms!!!
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Congrats to all that cashed. My previous next door neighbor posted pics & it looked like 2” off of New Stock Rd. Any of you seeing flow snow?
BTW it’s 44 & windy at the beach currently!- 2
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This is exactly why the mountains have been seeing the models such as the GFS latch onto high totals. As Forky mentioned this vort is going to be wound up and we will be north of the vort but then we are going to see backside snow along the border to enhance totals also. This is a complex wound up storm for sure.
Agreed & whoever gets lucky enough to be popped by the deform band is gonna be in for a treat. I still say don’t sleep on areas in the foothills. If things break right with the low track and strength…..surprise, surprise, surprise!!!
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That’s a great view! It gives a good look at what’s to come!
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