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Boundary palooza as it has been the last few days. Always interesting when you have a shortwave and the lake breeze both in play. Those storms near Madison look pretty angry, but we know how this can play out, already had a weakening storm move through so at least on the board once again.

If you ask me they should take into account heat indices then so a 90F high with dews expected into the 70s gets that message.

Yeah, I don't see a widespread drought concern like 2012 was for a time. There is enough moisture in this initial wave of heat to spark off storms in most sections of the Midwest. If the next wave of heat next week loses the moisture aspect, that may differ.

The cumulus starting to build already (sorry for the sideways pic).

A few things combining to create these: frequent evening fireworks this weekend, low wind and dry dewpoints. It's another benefit of living near the lake; typically if you have a lake breeze that's enough air current to mitigate the poor air quality once the lake breeze kicks up.

Wow, a bit unexpected for sure then. I went to a hidden gem (not so hidden today) called Lion's Den Gorge Nature Area, on Lake Michigan near Grafton. We were in between the two areas of convection, and the sky was completely blue out over Lake Michigan (as expected with the lake breeze subsidence). On the way back we ran into the cell going through the Milwaukee area, which was pretty intense for a time, and the Sheboygan area storm looked even more intense.

Some unexpected cells popped up just to the north of Milwaukee, and are now bringing us bonus rain on a day where prior to the morning update, had less than a 20% chance of anything popping up. A deluge in spots.

Cedar Rapids’ airport must be in an unfavored area for higher temps because I notice Waterloo consistently a few degrees warmer (but with lower dews) than Cedar Rapids. I don’t think climatologically speaking there should be that difference. Maybe the fact that the airport is in the SW side of town, when the warmer temps out of the W/S arrive there is no extra city warming being brought about may play a factor compared to other Iowa cities?

Crazy that Milwaukee's longest 80F plus streak isn't even that long (22 days).

That was 2011 and 2012 (along with the couple heatwaves in 2013) here in a nutshell. Hope things don’t go back to that because it’s been awhile since that kind of setup.

Madison, WI's forecast on that app looks just like this, and they have already been 89'd twice in June, with no 90s yet this year. It looks to happen sometime in the next several days. Meanwhile, lake breeze may keep us largely in the mid to upper 80s with manageable humidity in Milwaukee (we'll see).

Agreed, but I can see the lakefront areas in cities like Milwaukee and Chicago featuring everyone doing their own thing, generally spacing, and having this requirement there will not go over well when they have to pick and choose who to cite. Most outdoor events in Milwaukee anyway have been canceled. Basically every decent sized festival, sans a neighboring county fair or two.

Part of the issue lies in the many different circumstances, some of which are really risky and others that are not. I'm all for a mask rule indoors in high risk places like restaurants, bars, movie theaters, etc when not consuming food. Hopefully businesses are willing to enforce this. It seems some people want a universal mask rule in public places outdoors as well though, which opens up to a lot of complaints and enforcing inconsistencies. You may have a minority getting cited and then crying racism too. Hopefully they find a happy medium for places that should require masks so we can get this under control while also avoiding too many infringements on people's freedoms.

Are they talking historic in terms of persistence? I don't see too many individual days yielding record highs, but I suppose double digit days with highs over 90F don't happen too often in most Midwest cities, and Detroit may be a candidate for that this go around.

I know Rockford is just about the peak city in the Midwest for summer convection frequency (intensity is another story, the Central Plains most likely take the cake in that area).

If that's the case there is way too much talk and excitement over a vaccine. I'm guessing many would still be hesitant about large indoor gatherings even once we have a vaccine. Let's hope that's not the case.

That and the fact that the largest concentration of cases are young adults is probably why hospitalizations are not trending badly. That said, it is fair to not sleep on long term effects even in some younger people, so that does not mean to stop worrying about the virus altogether.

Lion’s Den on Lake Michigan a bit north of Milwaukee may be best summer climo. Yesterday for example their high was 69F. Today’s high temp has been 75F.

Really efficient rain producers in Waukesha County I can tell you that. Was raining cats and dogs even in the tinier cells.

If only that was clearly the case but not everyone who dies (far from it) have one foot in the grave. Just having a comorbidity does not constitute having a foot in the grave, especially if you’re young.

Yeah, just as big an issue is in the bar setting you have to talk loud, so there's no way to effectively socialize and have a good conversation while wearing a mask, yet I would feel significant risk without a mask.

Flat out pathetic thunderstorm season. First enhanced risk in awhile and we were socked in with clouds, and Chicago gets hit with the better stuff again. Not even a lightning strike within 10-15 miles, I wouldn't complain about even a garden variety storm.

There is not a lot of middle ground it seems, just like politics. I'm wearing a mask for any outdoor gatherings, but if they end up small or everyone else is pretty relaxed and not wearing masks, I'll take it off. If I go out to the bar I will definitely wear a mask and make sure to socially distance, but I've only been in that scenario once since mid March.

With all this crapvection, the current storms along the WI/IL border may be the event lol. If we get missed south, the complaint thread may be used

This feels like it has to be said in pretty much every setup (the models were poor in handling the early convection).