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The case numbers are worthy of a freak out, but most of the rest of the states' numbers aren't worthy of a freakout..at this time.

Do you ever get the inverse of lake breeze thunderstorms, at least for counties adjacent to the lake? In your case it would be light easterly winds (or similar component) giving way to west winds off the lake.

Western Lower Michigan seemed to do decently with storms in May and June, but this July pattern and lake shadow appearance looks to do them little favors. I guess this persistent ridge and common SE/E flow is the main culprit.

Yeah, I don't see a widespread drought concern like 2012 was for a time. There is enough moisture in this initial wave of heat to spark off storms in most sections of the Midwest. If the next wave of heat next week loses the moisture aspect, that may differ.

Agreed, but I can see the lakefront areas in cities like Milwaukee and Chicago featuring everyone doing their own thing, generally spacing, and having this requirement there will not go over well when they have to pick and choose who to cite. Most outdoor events in Milwaukee anyway have been canceled. Basically every decent sized festival, sans a neighboring county fair or two.

Part of the issue lies in the many different circumstances, some of which are really risky and others that are not. I'm all for a mask rule indoors in high risk places like restaurants, bars, movie theaters, etc when not consuming food. Hopefully businesses are willing to enforce this. It seems some people want a universal mask rule in public places outdoors as well though, which opens up to a lot of complaints and enforcing inconsistencies. You may have a minority getting cited and then crying racism too. Hopefully they find a happy medium for places that should require masks so we can get this under control while also avoiding too many infringements on people's freedoms.

I know Rockford is just about the peak city in the Midwest for summer convection frequency (intensity is another story, the Central Plains most likely take the cake in that area).

If that's the case there is way too much talk and excitement over a vaccine. I'm guessing many would still be hesitant about large indoor gatherings even once we have a vaccine. Let's hope that's not the case.

That and the fact that the largest concentration of cases are young adults is probably why hospitalizations are not trending badly. That said, it is fair to not sleep on long term effects even in some younger people, so that does not mean to stop worrying about the virus altogether.

If only that was clearly the case but not everyone who dies (far from it) have one foot in the grave. Just having a comorbidity does not constitute having a foot in the grave, especially if you’re young.

Yeah, just as big an issue is in the bar setting you have to talk loud, so there's no way to effectively socialize and have a good conversation while wearing a mask, yet I would feel significant risk without a mask.

Flat out pathetic thunderstorm season. First enhanced risk in awhile and we were socked in with clouds, and Chicago gets hit with the better stuff again. Not even a lightning strike within 10-15 miles, I wouldn't complain about even a garden variety storm.

There is not a lot of middle ground it seems, just like politics. I'm wearing a mask for any outdoor gatherings, but if they end up small or everyone else is pretty relaxed and not wearing masks, I'll take it off. If I go out to the bar I will definitely wear a mask and make sure to socially distance, but I've only been in that scenario once since mid March.

It better be

Yeah, the training MCS' and cells that late summer were many around here, some crazy rainfall totals in spots through August and September. It's fine if we have to wait until then, as long as it delivers.

No problem with that, but in the severe thread....

It happens here too where the lake diminishes the storms via the lake breeze, another impressive aspect of that June 21 complex. There were E/SE winds all day, highs in the mid 70s and plenty of cloud cover yet the storms did not weaken at all (and lasted well beyond Milwaukee obviously).

The origins of those storms were in SC Wisconsin I believe and gave us the Eagle tornado the evening of the 21st. On the 18th there were two consecutive derechos that came through many of the same areas (we were only impacted by one here but it was still noteworthy).

Yep, the week of storm action starting June 18, 2010 (it was a Friday) through June 24 gave excitement for everyone in this forum I believe.

I agree it feels that way for me too. Besides 2010 and 2014, not any recent years stand out for garden variety storms, let alone severe, and what we do get tend to be very progressive. 2000-2010 was a lot more exciting for storms imo than 2011-2020 have been.

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Yeah, garden variety storms are all the rage, and if you're not with it I guess it's back to your regularly scheduled programming....

If anyone here is watching the final round of the RBC Heritage, it’s frustrating. 0-10% chance of anything and this cell pops up about 5 miles NW of Harbour Town, stationary. In the meantime more cells popping up. I don’t understand in these warm humid setups like the SE coast they should always keep in a low chance for a pop up because it seems to happen often enough, even when they aren’t expecting them.

Still too early to feel great, but the trends in Wisconsin the last couple weeks sure have been promising. Fingers crossed the protests and other gatherings don't mess things up; since May 30 almost every day the percent positive has been between 2-4% and today so far it has dropped below 2% for the first time since the beginning of the outbreak I believe.

Common sense includes not much evidence of spread outdoors (and when sun is involved, an even lower chance). That isn't to say it's foolproof, but I'd call that part of common sense, knowing when a mask is necessary (a crowded grocery store) vs when it should be voluntary and not a big deal to not have a mask (on your daily walk in a low crowd situation).