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A factor in the uptick as well could be more mass events. After most of the summer events were canceled (in terms of festivals) staples like Oktoberfest are going on in September, and I can tell you last weekend when I went my sister and I were about the only people wearing masks in the open-air pavilion.

Nice illustration of why comparing our situation to that of New Zealand and successful European countries like some are doing is ill-advised as well.

He’s right though, I bet that church wasn’t following common precautions like mask wearing. I think if schools opening do follow precautions like that it will be manageable.

Mask use as frequently as possible is probably how we can reopen schools, with the exception of those who suffer from asthma and other issues that may be worsened by wearing a mask. Having an option for remote learning for those students could be pondered, along with those with more at-risk parents or guardians.

Fauci is on the side of careful in person learning too, dependent on magnitude of the spread. I would say I agree with his assessment, and hopefully this opens other’s minds if they are averse to any in-person learning. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/dr-fauci-lends-support-for-reopening-schools-in-person-learning/amp/

I still can’t get over the night and day response people are having to this virus. I went to a little social at a beer garden that was advertised as likely a few friends hanging out (through a church I occasionally attend) and I was the only one wearing a mask, I wouldn’t say they were social distancing very well, and there were about 30-40 people gathering next to and around four picnic tables or so. At least it was outside, but you could tell things were pretty cavalier. The cops almost broke it up (I wouldn’t have minded if they did, I wasn’t expecting quite this result). On the other hand there are people who only will ever hang out with or talk in person to family, even socially distanced outdoor options with masks are worrisome to them. I wish we could tow a sensible middle ground but this virus has only further divided us

I suppose it’s why southern states could be having a hard time. I’d imagine colds and other Coronaviruses in general would be at least a tad more common in cold weather states (states like Arizona are probably pretty low in that regard due to warm, dry weather).

I believe the firing is what allows them to collect this more advantageous unemployment ironically, so in a backwards way it is doing them a favor.

Wow we get to the point of calling a county that seemingly did quite well limiting the unnecessary deaths a stupid county? I’m sure his story of people choosing unemployment over working isn’t isolated either. It’s a legit thing to bring up.

It is true, and although I don’t want to make it too political, there are some who are laying most of this on 45. Sadly, it’s a joint responsibility and maybe this is a wake up call for some. Particularly if you are recovering from a past setback like cancer.

Truth doesn’t lol in this case though...

I think in a lot of cases they have to sign up ahead of time with their contact information to get a spot and appointment. I know one of my friends did that today so he could get tested tomorrow since his girlfriend is getting tested with common allergy symptoms she is worried may be COVID-19.

In a lot of cases they can’t quit their jobs for the full benefit anyway, but that’s part of the problem. I like your idea of $300-400 additional, I suggested that on AmPol and the results weren’t pretty.

Anyone else hear or experience a situation where anyone was about to be tested, chose not to proceed due to wait times, and received a call shortly after that they tested positive? I heard two of these kinds of stories secondhand this week. I find the sources to be relatively trustworthy too. In one case it was a family of three and each of them got a call so I don’t think it could be a simple mixup with someone who actually took the test.

Regardless of how you feel about min wage laws and the like, if we’re going to continue to hand out an additional $600 a week to the unemployed in addition to standard unemployment, we should also make sure the service industries are adequately compensated in a manner where they are not making less than those who are unemployed. Maybe call it an increase or added hazard pay.

What you have to consider is it's summer and more people have free time because they're out of work. If they have the means, there isn't a better time to go on vacation. Of course, Disney World in summer would not be my idea (though I do enjoy it in the nice weather times of the year), a lot of people have been chomping at the bit and feel it's safe enough given the protocols, the masks and a lot of your time is spent outside.

I will say this: for a lot of people with flying anxiety wearing a mask, thus reducing the flow of oxygen, would exacerbate their anxiety. Of course, in general there is a push to have fewer people travel due to Coronavirus, so I suppose if the airlines lose customers due to this concern (and it is a valid requirement because planes are breeding grounds for transmitting illness) they view it as a cost of doing business.

It’s not fun but I will say it’s not too much of an inconvenience unless you have asthma or other breathing problems (and in 90+F heat).

He wouldn’t be talking about someone who is considered obese due to huge muscles adding weight. To use a golf example Bryson DeChambeau sounds like a similar comparison to your body type bulk wise, but he wouldn’t be at a high risk most likely because he’s young and he is a heavier weight due to working out and protein shakes.

Interesting, I was watching his tournament today and must have been away at the time because I did not catch that. Did he say what month he thought it was?

Ours are closing due to poor water quality/possible bacteria.

Who knows at this point? We can all say we know the progression of COVID-19 over the next couple years but none of us do, only educated (and some uneducated) guesses.

The case numbers are worthy of a freak out, but most of the rest of the states' numbers aren't worthy of a freakout..at this time.

Agreed, but I can see the lakefront areas in cities like Milwaukee and Chicago featuring everyone doing their own thing, generally spacing, and having this requirement there will not go over well when they have to pick and choose who to cite. Most outdoor events in Milwaukee anyway have been canceled. Basically every decent sized festival, sans a neighboring county fair or two.

Part of the issue lies in the many different circumstances, some of which are really risky and others that are not. I'm all for a mask rule indoors in high risk places like restaurants, bars, movie theaters, etc when not consuming food. Hopefully businesses are willing to enforce this. It seems some people want a universal mask rule in public places outdoors as well though, which opens up to a lot of complaints and enforcing inconsistencies. You may have a minority getting cited and then crying racism too. Hopefully they find a happy medium for places that should require masks so we can get this under control while also avoiding too many infringements on people's freedoms.