gravitylover

I'm at 41. It's not nice outside - clouds, wind and cold. Blech.

For the sake of being relatively easy to look up stuff that's happened over the last 2 years I say keep this going. Once it falls off the first page It starts getting harder to find a thread making it harder to look things up. That's a fairly recent thought, I didn't realize until last winter when you guys slapped me in the head with it that this thread has been going for that long.

15 hours ago, Snow88 said:

18z gefs looks great for the 5th

9 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

and snow around the 5th seems to occur more often than not, like Dec 2002

We had a couple of years in a row with snowstorms on the 5th here. One of them was a near disaster because it had been warm(ish) during the day and the streets waremd up then it started as a few minutes of wet that quickly turned to sleet and a few minutes later to heavy snow. The precip started around 4:30-4:45 then everyone got out of work and the roads were nearly impassable as they flash froze. At least this year we've gotten that first storm out of the way already and everyone is ready for the next one, right? 

12 hours ago, jfklganyc said:

Up at hunter today.

Around 4 inches on ground with a steady snow all day.

Spectacular November conditions. Perhaps the best I ever experienced in NE.

 

 

Hunter isn't in Nebraska, heck it's not in New England either  

Hey we need the rain. It's the only way we're going to get to 70" of precip for the year 

11 hours ago, Juliancolton said:

Big old upslope cat paws flitting about. Wintry November continues.

In Vermont they're calling it Snowvember. So many places up there already have what they'd normally have by mid January. The ski conditions are apparently incredible. Now if they could just get the electricity back on...

Seems to me that if there's no WAR then systems will move W>E and as long as we're on the north side then we see a string of nickel and dime events and it stays sort of cold to very cold. I don't see how there can be cutters if there's no mechanism to send systems from south to north (whether they're east or west of us). 

My empty wallet and nearly empty oil tank want me to choose the bottom one but my heart wants the top one. 

Hey @Juliancolton any progress with that birch tree?

11 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Hopefully it will be a quiet 5 days

Beginning Tuesday, November 27, 2018, the WSR-88D radar operated by the NOAA National Weather Service in Mount Holly, NJ (KDIX) will be down for approximately five days for the refurbishment of the transmitter. Although the form, fit, and function of the transmitter will remain the same, old breakers and cables original to the radar will be replaced with modern fuses and new cables.  This will help keep the 20-year-old radar operating smoothly for another 20 years. 

Is there a commercial radar, tv or other, that can be used as a replacement?

2 hours ago, wdrag said:

Wantage NJ 4 sw: (3 w of FWN) 1.53" between 6PM last evening and 230AM today. Yearly total exceeds 60".  Per an early November check with NJ Climate team...2018 I think is going to go down as top 3 wettest years in NJ official record keeping, especially here in nw NJ=treasured water replenishment(wells/large rivers etc). posted 727AM 11/25

It's such a pleasure having you here with us  

1 hour ago, Juliancolton said:

Hmmm, definitely an argument to be made there. Maybe I'll keep two books from now on to back up all narratives. That's cool to do in science, right? 

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours Rob, and to everyone else. May your turkey be moist and may nobody use that word to describe it. 

Two sets of books has worked in the business world for centuries, why wouldn't it work in the science world?

Yeah it squalled for a few minutes here too. It would have been nice to see a bit more after the temp dropped but oh well.

11 hours ago, Hailstorm said:

If the Pacific and Atlantic blocking decide to take a break, I hope it occurs between 12/10-12/22. I do not want another Grinch storm / blowtorch for Christmas like it has been for 3 of the last 5 winters.

I don't know about that, there's something to be said for mt biking in shorts and short sleeves when it's 60* on Christmas. That something is good, trust me  

Anybody else seeing flakes this afternoon? I've got light flakes and grains falling intermittently.

Boy 1938 was a heckuva year around here... 

29 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

The message in red at the top said it would be down for maintenance this weekend 

Reading comprehension and paying attention aren't Toeknee's strong points  

So, another inch or two on Tuesday appears to be in the cards for us. Whaddaya think?

25 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Most wintry Thanksgiving I can remember was Thanksgiving 1989- it would be really hard to match that!

I got 10" the day before Thanksgiving 2014 here in Mahopac. That's the most wintry Turkey day I remember, I was in Steamboat CO in '89 and we had a beautiful, warm one out there that year.

2 minutes ago, JerseyWx said:

Lol I hear ya.  Definitely not my choice when there's snow on the road.  However, on a day like today when it's all melted, it goes right back out.  The BRZ is pretty nice, my friend has a Toyota 86 (same car basically).  Light and very nimble.  The Mustang is more about brute force (420 hp), but it still handles pretty well for what it is.  You can feel it's weight though, and the live axle hinders performance a bit.  The newer ones have independent rear suspension now.

I'll keep it weather related  Last winter when it was so cold for those few weeks and the roads were nearly brittle it was such a hoot to slide around and get all drifty with on bone dry, salt covered roads. It put an absolute hurt on my winter tires though, I'm in desperate need of some new ones before I even think of taking it out in the snow this season, heck they're barely even passable in the rain anymore  

11 minutes ago, JerseyWx said:

I agree @gravitylover.  Tires make a world of difference.  I daily drive my 5.0 Mustang lol (though she didn't have to deal with yesterday's conditions).  As long as there's no heavy snow on the road, it goes out.  However, I still want to look into a used F150.  My neighbor has a lifted one, and man I don't think there's anything better.  He can get through just about anything with it.  A properly set up 4x4 can blow just about anything away IMO.  Like you said though, even RWD is manageable if you have it set up right, though coming from my own experience, I'd feel a lot more comfortable in a nice 4WD truck (especially when roads are horrific like yesterday).

Yeah my BRZ does more sitting than driving from now until ~April because we have a couple of other more winter appropriate vehicles in the driveway. I certainly feel safer in my 06 Durango when someone is sliding towards me 

^^In a way this was a bit stranger than 2011. That was after the atmosphere had experienced a significantly turbulent event (Irene) and wavelengths were messed with bringing a higher chance for an anomalous cold air intrusion. This was just sort of "in the course of things". 

2 hours ago, psv88 said:

Another factor was how cold it was the night before, 20s area wide. So the ground was cold and the snow stuck right away everywhere, rare for a mid-day snowstorm. Really just a perfect storm to create mayhem. 

And yea, we can never laugh at a southern city again...

I've also never seen so many cars get stuck in 3-4" of snow (on the roads), most cars should be able to handle that amount just fine.

It's not the cars that can't handle it it's the tires they come with and the tires that people buy to replace those with. I have a few neighbors with Subarus and assorted other AWD cars and they struggled with the conditions yesterday. They fought through it last year too and just can't seem to understand why. I get around just fine in my BRZ with rear wheel drive and ~4 1/2" of clearance and nobody can figure out how I do it. Tires people, tires. The LRR pieces of crap that come on your cars get you decent mpg's but suck when it's cold and slippery, the car companies have to spec them to bring their fleet averages up that extra 1-2mpg but you don't have to stick with them. Then you have all of these people that go with UHP's or Max Performance tires because some dude on the internet told them that's the best for the car but they never seem to think that the recommendation is coming from someone in Texas. The whole thing gets me so frustrated...grrrr.

The crust on this stuff is pretty significant. I expect that with the cold temps tonight it will be pretty supportive, maybe even enough to hold my 45# dog up. That was some heavy work shoveling the driveway.

Quick burst of heavy sleet followed by about 20 minutes of heavy snow with another quick burst of sleet as it wrapped up and now the sun is coming out and the wind is up. That was a fun storm to watch, glad I didn't have any reason to be out in it after the first hour or so, sounds like it was a mess out there.