IrishRob17

Now the storm is jinxed and weenies will be drawn to posting at all hours of the night beyond their control.

It’s currently 15 here and at KMGJ, 2 miles north of me, it’s 7! That’s by far the biggest difference I’ve ever seen between me and KMGJ. Legoland is 19.

LOL. I noticed they had just a little bit of wind over the last couple hours but it’s been dead calm here. This is the weather minutiae that @Juliancolton and I really enjoy.

Doing something wrong?

9 degrees here now and 16 at Legoland, that’s the biggest difference I’ve seen to date.

Which betting app did you use? LOL Back to the Rock Pile, check out the warm layer

Which part of the Delaware is that?

It certainly helps. I have 5” still here but it was clear is was colder just west of here. Had we picked up some solid fresh snow on Thursday I wonder how cold it would’ve got but it is what it is. The Mount Washington temps were interesting as you go up the mountain. Last I checked it was -15 at the base and +5 up top.

It’s a push, I touched -4 at 7:38am, up to -1 now.

-4 for me...I'm betting the over

The big temp drop has not commenced here yet, actually bounced up to 33 at home.

Nice. Don't say you "only" have accurate records from 2011/2012. You have accurate records and over time your data will grow. I'll be moving at some point in the future so I'll have to start over in a new location. It is what it is, which is better than nothing IMO. 02/03 was a solid winter, I had 92" in New Windsor, down near the Hudson, that season but I should note my measuring was not a accurate as it is now. Either way, a solid winter.

Here's his COOP report for January 1996, look a that snowpack...and then gone https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/pub/orders/IPS/IPS-543FF03B-BC6F-4812-9EBD-484040853764.pdf

Exactly. Those are the new averages on Upton's webpage. Do you keep records? Curious what numbers you have come up with over there.

Thanks to @Juliancoltonfor that link to the snow maps, I don't recall seeing that before and bookmarked it for future use. We all know that snowfall is the least accurate of weather readings for many reasons. You have slant stickers, car top measurers, and the classic eyeball measuring. Then there are reasonable reasons for differences due to terrain and microclimates which is why I'm not a fan of making broad brush assumptions on average snowfall but sometimes that's all we can go on outside of ones own yard. This is a reason I got a bit more scientific in my measurements and started keeping better records. If I used the measurement I got from my yard on Monday it would've been close to .5 higher than what I had on the board. There are people *cough* @BxEngine *cough* who have been known to not mow their lawn after Labor Day simply so that they can get a higher snow measurement. That may or may not be true but I digress, I encourage anyone that is really interested in snowfall averages, measuring, etc. to get a snow board, a tenths ruler, set up a spreadsheet and start gathering your own stats. Its not difficult but it does take time to to build up the data. That said, there are plenty of people that don't care that much about this and that's fine too. The average for KMGJ does seem a bit low and I think it may be based off of COOP reporting as the airport itself does not measure as far as I know. The Crist brothers have COOP records from Walden that go way back, that may have been used for all I know. For those that like to look back at weather records I recommend spending some time here looking at old monthly reports: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/IPS/coop/coop.html Below is a screenshot of the KMGJ averages along with my own calculated running averages for anyone interested.

34/29 just flipped to light snow.

10.3" on the season which puts me 7.2" below the NWS normal for KMGJ to date and 8.0" below my running average to date. Agreed. How do you compare to your own running average?

I'll have to check when I get home as I don't recall off the top of my head what I had in January besides Monday. I know that was nothing notable but those tenths do count.

Lots of sketchiness out there this morning as all that water at the bottom of the pack froze wherever it was running off last night. 5" of solid mass at the stake this morning.

Good, so you know where it is…

1.22” total melted in the stratus. I was also surprised at the amount of water at the bottom of the snow as I cleared it this morning.

My son did two years up there and loved it. He was chuckling out at South Bend last week when they picked up a few inches of lake effect and some thought it was like a blizzard.

Well I didn’t mean to urge, I respect everyone has a different approach to weather. I promise you I don’t look at the euro in the middle of the night but will in the morning, along with the other models. We have some very good posters who provide great info that we can learn from. That said, especially when we have a storm to track, posters come out of the woodwork and there’s some terrible IMBY poor interpretations. I just try to learn a little more each day.

Finally popped above freezing, up to 33

Glad it over performed on snow but under on the wind. We all know wind gust maps are overdone but the 0z NAM last night really caught my atttion but thankfully it was really out to lunch at least around here.