Brian D

Rain showers this morning making things nice, and sloppy(and a bit icy on untreated surfaces). High wind watch along the shore later today for potential gusts to 60 mph.

S trend would be nice. LP will track right over me at this point.

Is 6-9" a big snow? The upper end of that is getting there. Maybe we need a woman's perspective on this??

Pretty much lighter snows, and gusty winds for the foreseeable future. Might get lucky with some lake enhancement/LES. Temps will be a rollercoaster ride.

Lansing has records back in the 1860's which had some very cold winters. So I looked at how this year compared. Impressive to be sure. 15.63 1868-12-01 1868-12-15 1 1 1 0 16.93 1867-12-01 1867-12-15 2 2 2 0 17.20 1917-12-01 1917-12-15 3 3 3 0 17.20 1876-12-01 1876-12-15 3 3 4 0 17.33 1895-12-01 1895-12-15 5 4 5 0 17.53 1958-12-01 1958-12-15 6 5 6 0 18.47 1976-12-01 1976-12-15 7 6 7 0 18.70 1904-12-01 1904-12-15 8 7 8 0 19.33 1989-12-01 1989-12-15 9 8 9 0 19.43 1864-12-01 1864-12-15 10 9 10 0 19.77 1893-12-01 1893-12-15 11 10 11 0 19.90 2025-12-01 2025-12-15 12 11 12 0 Here's what MRCC has for Detroit 19.57 1958-12-01 1958-12-15 1 1 1 0 20.03 1917-12-01 1917-12-15 2 2 2 0 21.30 1876-12-01 1876-12-15 3 3 3 0 21.37 1976-12-01 1976-12-15 4 4 4 0 22.07 1895-12-01 1895-12-15 5 5 5 0 22.10 2025-12-01 2025-12-15 6 6 6 0 22.30 1989-12-01 1989-12-15 7 7 7 0 22.63 1937-12-01 1937-12-15 8 8 8 0 22.90 2005-12-01 2005-12-15 9 9 9 0 22.97 1893-12-01 1893-12-15 10 10 10 0

10th coldest for Madison too. 6.30 1919-12-01 1919-12-15 1 1 1 0 7.77 1972-12-01 1972-12-15 2 2 2 0 9.50 1958-12-01 1958-12-15 3 3 3 0 10.03 1917-12-01 1917-12-15 4 4 4 0 11.07 1976-12-01 1976-12-15 5 5 5 0 12.80 1898-12-01 1898-12-15 6 6 6 0 13.33 1893-12-01 1893-12-15 7 7 7 0 14.13 1876-12-01 1876-12-15 8 8 8 0 14.63 1942-12-01 1942-12-15 9 9 9 0 14.97 2025-12-01 2025-12-15 10 10 10 0

Ice is generally new/thin which would be typical this time of year. The warmer temps with gusty winds this week will knock it back pretty good as much of the detected ice is lower in concentrations across the Lakes. With such a cold start this year, the potential exists for a higher ice year with larger areas of thicker ice. Something we need to help the natural ecosystem. It actually helps to knock back some invasive species.

First half of the month at DLH is the 10th coldest. 3 days of warmer wx, and sloppy with the strong clipper incoming for Wed-Thurs. -4.40 1919-12-01 1919-12-15 1 1 1 0 -2.33 1972-12-01 1972-12-15 2 2 2 0 -0.27 1958-12-01 1958-12-15 3 3 3 0 1.27 1927-12-01 1927-12-15 4 4 4 0 1.33 1917-12-01 1917-12-15 5 5 5 0 3.67 1976-12-01 1976-12-15 6 6 6 0 4.50 1985-12-01 1985-12-15 7 7 7 0 5.10 2013-12-01 2013-12-15 8 8 8 0 5.30 2000-12-01 2000-12-15 9 9 9 0 6.33 2025-12-01 2025-12-15 10 10 10 0

Whiplash temps. Going to feel very nice tomorrow.

I think you guys would like the UP MI area. Lots of snow, and tends not to see a lot of bitter wx because of the Lake. Some parts get excessive snow, but you can find areas that aren't so bad. Temperate summers, too.

Coldest am yet around N MN. -10's/-20's. Badoura over in the Park Rapids area -28. Windy last night, but they calmed down, and with clear, blue skies allowed some good radiational cooling this morning. Impressive cold snap for mid Dec, but I'm ready for milder temps, and some snow chances.

-10's across NE MN (some -20's) even on the shoreline. Wind chills in the -30's to -40+ in some places. Bitter am. Picked up a 1/4" of snow yesterday. -12 in town here is tied 6th coldest this morning. -16 at DLH is tied 6th coldest as well. Another bitter day tomorrow, then things start to warm

In my sig (TH 7NW hasn't updated yet. Observer sends in every 2 weeks or so)

Tonight into tomorrow will be a nasty slap in face. CWA issued. Even Sunday will be brisk.

-SN this morning here. Some minor accum so far. Should be over around midday. Then a very bitter day tomorrow.

Just looking at GFS long range. It shows the mess I'm seeing. Whether or not that ends up the case, we shall see.

What was the SWE of that snow? Drier snows melt down faster. More air in the pack with fluffier snows as well.

Totally got robbed on this one. NADA! Even Duluth only got 1-3". Talk about a S trend. That's OK, still early in the season.

Got curious as to when the last time we saw a very cold start to Dec for the sub as whole. Looks like 2010 is the closest.

Snow then bitter wx follows this weekend. Haven't had a Dec like this in ....... 10 yrs or so just off the top of my head.

Reported 3.5" of powdery snow this morning. Looks like 2-5" around the area. No reports yet from the Grand Marais area. They may have gotten a bit more. UPDATE: looks like the tip of the Arrowhead only got 2-3" Next one starts later today

Early data in for Nov showing a near avg month (on the + side). Fall was very warm. 5 & 10 yr charts shown respectively.

-sd's/10's this morning with sd's along the shore. Looks like 24-36hrs of light/mod snow my way. 6-8" total accum forecasted for TH.

Ice quickly forming in the bays around the Lakes.

Cold morning with -sd's along the shore and -10's inland with some -20's. Heavy sea smoke. Looking forward to some snow action starting tomorrow.