Agreed....though in a lot of these solutions where the northern stream goes nuts, we get this very tight/tucked circulation near the vortmax where it's closing off aloft....so it wouldn't surprise me if we see a really enhanced area of precip in a narrow stripe if that happened. We saw it in 12/9/05 even though that hit a pretty large area...but a narrow stripe from SE NH to NE and E-central MA got obliterated for a few hours on the rates.
But we have a long ways to go to worry about something that specific yet. This could still just be a few snow showers.....but we're trending toward shovelable at least right now.
Clown range on 18z NAM but that is the type of look you want with the northern stream really digging so that it catches up with the OH valley shortwave.
What the hell is going on with the Euro? Looks like it's going to phase all 3 shortwaves this run...or at least try. No other run tries to phase in the lagging southern stream s/w in the southwest US.
There's two pieces of energy diving in from the plains...the northern piece digging more is associated with the bigger solutions. It's really obvious on the Ukie, the older GFS runs and actually the 84h NAM at 12z looks like those bigger runs.
The weaker runs have the energy more separated...particularly the northern piece is not digging as much in those weaker solutions.
It's definitely weird that BOS actually got colder in November averages compared to 30 years ago. But looking at the decadal numbers, it makes sense...one of those flukes. The cold Novembers in the 2010s did it.
BOS January 1961-1990: 28.6
BOS January 1991-2020: 29.9
ORH January 1961-1990: 22.8
ORH January 1991-2020: 24.7
November was by far the lowest change...which is interesting. Anecdotelly I would've thought November would be the worst, though it's probably being blunted by some epically cold Novembers we've had recently (like 2018 and 2019)...and the 1980s did not have cold Novembers...the only one that was more than like -1 was 1989.
January is kind of in between December and November for the amount of rise.
BOS November 1961-1990: 45.3
BOS November 1991-2020: 44.7 (!!!)
ORH November 1961-1990: 39.4
ORH November 1991-2020: 40.2
BOS December 1961-1990: 33.6
BOS December 1991-2020: 35.7
ORH December 1961-1990: 27.4
ORH December 1991-2020: 30.5
ORH really got nuked in December..BOS did too but not as much....losing 1989 and gaining 2015 is a big one though.
Yes Hudson Bay is lagging badly....the arctic ocean though and adjacent seas are way ahead of recent years.
Hudson Bay had no ice at this point in 2016, 2012, 2010, 2006, and 2003 too, so while rare, it isn't unheard of.
Chukchi sea froze over faster than any year since after the 2012 monster melt. The difference is 2021 also has refrozen on the Atlantic side very fast unlike that 2012 autumn. That's why we're more like the early 2000s right now for extent
You realize that it's like 5-6 days out still, right? This isn't a 3 day lead time right now.
It's fine to point out the possibility (hell, I linked to my post 4 days ago pointing out the favorability of the pattern for Nov 28-30), but "locking" it in is ridiculous.
That is interesting....KBOS went to crap in the spring too after last winter. You can see when they fixed the REALLY bad issues back in spring of 2020, but then the step down to crappy (but not quite as bad as before) in spring 2021 and now getting back to normal in fall 2021
Not the final solution of course....that was close to something a lot better. Verbatim though, prob just some light snow mostly S of pike on that run for Sunday.
Euro is going to have snow here on Sunday...possibly into Monday too...backside energy trying to dive in so we'll see if it goes to town, but even the current solution has light snow falling on Sunday in SNE.
PRob going to be getting good upslope snows on Friday too...even over at BW. This looks like a pretty robust event because there's a lot of deeper level synoptic moisture associated with it.