JustinRP37

It's almost like hysteria drive clicks which drives $$$. Meanwhile accurate forecasting drives revenue in aviation. Point being, I trust your numbers over anything I read online for winds because when they get your forecast wrong people can potentially die.

Alright I have a tough question to ask the crew. Do I buy a new snow blower this season or wait until end of the year clearance? Our tiny but still new snowblower was not up to the job today clearing the 7 inches away. It did great on our sidewalks just not the driveway. I don't want to jinx us by buying another new one this year, likewise if it is looking meh for the next weeks should I hold off? I only ask because I know in retail they will be in full summer mode come February likewise the next season's snowblowers will show up in July haha.

We got just under 7 inches here in Patterson. I just measure after sleeping in since the whole family slept in. Beautiful out.

It is absolutely ripping snow in Patterson, NY. My son was beyond excited to see snow. Pretty insane to think the last warned event he lived through he was 2. Now he is 5.

These two posts are juxtaposed against each other haha. I’m worried about this winter.

I have been very quiet lately not wanting to jinx us, but I am thinking we finally have something coming. I honestly think this could be 6-8 our area of Putnam County, but we'll see. I hiked up Ice Pond trail today and it felt wintry out there minus snow.

What exactly are the positives besides lower heating bills? More invasive insects in the summer? More mosquitos? More mold?

Like I have said before, we can skate by with average daily minimums. That would allow local ski areas to make their snow and get open for business. Problem is, I don't even see sustained overnight lows approaching norms for 10+ days. There will be sporadic nights of snowmaking, but this is just getting ridiculous. We have kicked the can and it is starting to be very worrying that even with snowmaking capabilities, southern NY and southern New England resorts will not survive much longer. Then we are looking at the time bomb for northern resorts. Really scary stuff.

Sigh the sad thing is even on the ten day there are only a few nights favorable to snow making if the humidity cooperates. Pattern really needs to change in a hurry.

"Near normal" in early January is cold! You keep talking about those who are saying arctic cold is coming are going to be disappointed when as far as I have read for the past 83 pages, nobody has even mentioned arctic cold or sustained below average temperatures. Many are saying the pattern is improving. And I don't get the point you are trying to make. People mention we could have a few shots at cool temps with snow chances and you then post about no arctic cold. You cannot honestly look at the incoming pattern and tell me that it is as hostile to snowfall as the current pattern we have been in for a little over a week now.

Good lord another person that couldn't pass a physics class because they don't believe in the laws of thermodynamics for fossil fuels. I'll never understand how some believe that humans burning fuel all over the globe have zero effects on the planet. Energy can neither be create nor destroyed*. *Except in the case of fossil fuels where once you burn it the energy released goes to an imaginary place where it can do nor harm. Edit: This is sarcasm....

Yeah it is a disaster, not to many some ski areas are blocked from main roads due to washouts. Really a horrible time of year for that to happen after a tough start last year. For the more southern areas, I am beginning to wonder how they will survive (the ones without year round events).

And you can't blame me this winter, I didn't buy a snow blower or new skis this year!!! I did both last year, so you can blame me for that. So who bought the snow blower and skis this year?

It has been about a week or longer since I posted my thoughts and what was looking like a great 2023/2024 ski season did come to a record breaking halt with the last storm. To be blunt, I don't know how some resorts will recover from this. Lots of holiday cancellation in these tourist towns and in SNE and NY, the resorts don't have any pack. Catskills are working on rapidly rebuilding their packs, but many just won't feel the ski bug during a holiday week in the upper 40s and low 50s in the metro area. Looking ahead to the future, I don't see sustained cold air to get people in that "wintry" feeling. Looking to the west and north, same thing. In order for me to feel better I need to see our overnight lows getting back to normal and I just don't see that happening yet. While we were routinely getting freezing overnight temps in the mountains and suburbs in the beginning of the month we are no longer consistently seeing that, and that is very problematic for winter sports on the east coast. So while I do think we will get snow this year, I think we end up well below average for snow cover duration and peak snow depth in the mountains. I hope I am wrong, but I do think we get another strong rain storm even up into northern New England before the pattern change.

Behind a paywall but why is sucking carbon out of the atmosphere a bad thing?

It may be but that arctic warming is a big concern.

A broken clock is still right twice a day. That said statistics is still against a shutout snow wise here this year.

For sure, but it does seem many are saying it hasn't been cold at all recently and given the state of the ski season thus far, things are pretty good. Sure the extreme SNE resorts aren't there yet, but looking ahead things look seasonable. NYC's averages drop from the low 50s Dec, to low 40s by NYE (not exactly frigid by any take). And before I'm weenied, I told friends and family that I am expecting DJF to average around +1 to +2.5 overall with about 60-70% of our average snowfall season. Still a "warm" winter but not snowless and certainly not the ratter we had last year.

I would love to, but it is my son's holiday concert at school. The way people are talking here, you better bring a raft and enjoy a day at Bellayre beach instead. Bellayre is looking great this early in the season. Can't wait to ride the new lift!

There is literally no truth in your post. See November temp anomaly: See Eurasia snow cover anomaly: And see northern hemisphere snow cover anomaly: If we are going to be downright hyperbolic, make sure it is correct data. For everyone, what are we all arguing about? For the love of God and the holidays, why are we acting like winter is going to be a shutout again? There is literally nothing that shows winter making a no show this season. Stop with the bickering and hyperbolic proclamations.

Not to mention you have already posted a few times you have been out on the snow to ski, which is earlier than last year. Snow is really not that far away from the city either! A quick 90-120 minute drive is all people need so far this December. Reading the doom and gloom here you'd think that the ski areas were still in summer operations mode.

Belleayre added 7 inches of natural snow this morning to their seasonal total. Might not be in your backyard, but still a much better start to the winter season than last year. Also, while it might look bleak for snow in your backyard for the next few weeks, statistics are still against another shutout this season so breathe. On a side note our boiler went into lockout mode so waiting on a tech today. Thankfully it isn’t brutally cold but it is currently wet snowing outside.

As the academic semester closes out for the fall term, I have my students reflect on the semester and ask them their favorite and least favorite topics. I figured you'd all love one student's response to the least favorite topic "Conversely, my least favorite topic was "ocean currents and El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO)". One of the biggest challenges in comprehending global climate patterns was how intricate they were, especially considering how complex ocean currents and ENSO are. The complexities of these phenomena were daunting, even though they were acknowledged to have a crucial role in influencing climate." I think all of us on the subforum agree.

It is funny that Joe B could find snow in a deep-fryer at a McDonald's. Anyways, with all the weenie emojis flying around in here, has anyone been to the best weenie spot in the metro area? Dog Den in White Plains is my absolute favorite weenie spot. Check it out sometime. Now back to our regularly scheduled warmth versus cold discussion. Said goodbye to what little snow was on the ground this morning before I commuted to the Bronx. Noted that Thunder Ridge did not bother last night with the big storm coming up this weekend. Maybe, just maybe, we see some back end accumulations.

I guess from my perspective a negative would be a winter like last year where you couldn't even really ski on decent man made snow. It was slush. To some 60+ in December is a positive, but to most on these boards they are a negative. I'll roll with whatever I have to roll with and jut get outside. I enjoy being outside unless is it pouring down rain and 40 with gusty winds... I guess kind of like the forecast for Sunday night