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Right? And I don’t think any of us know if it’s all AGW or cyclical or both. March *seems* to have been a lot more pleasant in the recent past. I just know from my kids’ baseball teams that March is usually now chilly, grey, and muddy with flurries and rain. I do think we’re having some recency bias on September since it was hot the first week of this past September. I’ve always found September to be the best weather of the year. Makes fall sports for the kids very enjoyable. .

[emoji817]and March is much more miserable (even including snow chances outside of the city) than I recall as a kid. .

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Exactly, but it *should* improve, as it works through more and more efficiencies in the coming years. Think of how good electric cars are today versus how poor they were ten or twelve years ago… I mean, look at a 2010 Chevy Bolt versus a late model Tesla S that includes fast charging. The world is changing before our eyes. .

Always love your analysis! I *think* we're underplaying the ability to capture and store carbon in the near future; remember, internal combustion engines were significantly improved in emissions and particle emissions by the catalytic converter. (If you're ever around classic cars or the Tomorrowland Speedway or two cycle leaf blowers/lawn mowers, you can immediately smell gas engines sans catalytic converters) I think we significantly underplay our ingenuity to form the planet, in both bad and good ways. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

I just started reading this thread this morning and was excited when I saw it was HOT! Like maybe a snowstorm? Little did I know that winter was cancelled.

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It just started accumulating in the sides of the yard as well as it was ending. .

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[emoji3595][emoji3595][emoji3595] That, and social media being our id, so we say things sans filters when frustrated. .

Bingo. That and the reality of AGW amplifying a lousy pattern. It’s like a cake that already has too much salt in it and you proceed to sprinkle more salt on top of it instead of powdered sugar. .

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what’s acatt? .

me in Morris County .

Great information, thank you! Really emphasizes the boom/bust nature of snowfall around here, which AGW seems to be amplifying. .

A lot of posters are very smart - much smarter than many of us here, including myself, when it comes to weather - but why always so negative? I see that with my friends who are meteorologists and have postings/followings on Twitter… some other meteorologists seem to revel in why the other person is wrong or analyzing incorrectly. Maybe it’s human nature? .

I know it’s Philly, but imagine if these boards were around in the early 1990s. 🫠 .

It’s after Thanksgiving today, so we’re now allowed to officially cancel winter. .

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Thank you, seems logical.

Great analysis. Wonder why it suddenly turned in 1972. (Agnes notwithstanding)

I think I saw three flakes while on Route 10 midday, prior to the cold November rain.

I think it's groupthink and recency bias: we're constantly barraged with the adverse impacts from climate change (please, I believe in it, and I'm not denying it, so lay down your pitchfork; plus, destructive weather events get clicks and eyeballs), we see it in longer summers and milder winters, so anything that isn't brutal cold and consistent snow around here is easily mentally connected. We seem to act like we all live in some snowless hellscape. Add that to some recent dull winters, anything that continues pleasant late autumn days make us all sound like boomers and talk of back in my day. (apologies to the boomers on the thread)