I just feel like so much has been added/programmed into these models such as all these new teleconnections & polar vortex & who knows what else, that the models are a jumbled mess. I feel forecasts were much more accurate in the 70’s-90’s. Of course adding the amount of hours they go out to does cause verification scores to decrease. Also adding the 10-15 days forecast sure does not help. If I remember correctly, 5 days was the most back in those years. Honestly it would probably be a good thing if the wx offices did not release the 240+ hours to the public. Actually 120 hours is sufficient. I know I’m wrong saying that, I just feel we have made forecasting much harder than we should. Some of these models need to be axed. Like the ole DGEX model. How I wish we could go back to simpler times.