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Yeah everybody’s clamoring for a record… But 2015 busted all that. you’re not gonna hit any weekly or monthly record Not even going to be close. And as we get closer to the solstice, that week is in the 50s every year now. Almost normal

Wasn’t that the season where the snow kept changing to rain? If so timing for the measurement really is key

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats all I could summon after 8 pages

It’s funny my block is all below ground because it was built in the 80s and 90s via blasting into a steep rock. But it connects to roads and houses built in the 40s and that’s where all the power is fed from… above ground. You are only as good as your weakest point. 33F this morning

So youre saying we are lucky that our deps are so low compared to the mid section?

Exactly

Thats the thanksgiving number right? Was a nice event.

Nothing beautiful about today at JFK. Gusty chilly overcast mess 53F Wind gusting to 34 mph with mist

Agreed. Crazy year. LI Sound Ice. But we are talking about December in this conversation

There is no agenda. We consistently talk about that El Niño as some super event on this forum. I read it all the time “super nino” When you put up a chart showing a warming trend over a decade for the month of December and the entire eastern half of the country is blood red, perhaps a footnote. I know we certainly never had a Dec anywhere near that. Have we ever had any other month of the year in New York City that had a +12? If so that may be worth mentioning in the data. Doesn’t affect the data but gives a lot of context

Better get rid of humidity if you want to hit that average.

That’s why a median is a median. Take them both away and you still don’t have the anomalies in the original chart.

You guys are being smart for no reason. It’s the difference between a mean and the median if you remember mathematics. If you take one year with a +12 you skew the entire average. when you look at the median you realize it’s nowhere near +12 and that there is warming but a color-coded chart with an average doesn’t tell the real story. You guys should be so precise with failed long range predictions and sea-sawing opinions of models on this forum. It’s Monday…is the GFS great or a failed model today? :/

That’s a much better look at the data though. it shows much less of a warming trend in the last half of the decade.

But if you notice it’s heavily weighted to the eastern half of the country. I would like to see this chart without the 2015 El Nino in it. That would be a bit more balanced. What was that month? +12F?

Easily +7 over forecast

Actually, the Gfs weeklies said that, so the opposite. I think. Depends on whos posting…

Lots of elms, red maple, sweetgums, sycamore, oaks, and magnolia. 34F in Hastings at 7am

Wasnt everybody throwing in the towel on December a few days ago because the GFS was showing endless 60s? Gospel or a comic strip?

I just landed from Florida. Compared to trees in southern Queens: Daytona had fewer leaves on their non-evergreen trees The urban areas of Jax had about the same amount of leaves on their non-evergreen trees. In case you didnt know, trees in north Florida lose their leaves. Nonetheless, ironic and disturbing and weird

Wow! To see that warmth into Montana in December…

It’s ridiculous. Then you realize it’s the same guys doing the same thing over and over again…in an echo chamber. Look at the screen names…same 5 guys. It’s always gonna be +4. Meanwhile is 35 out. Enjoy your December

I don’t know. I just drove through the Bronx and across Queens… There really isn’t enough foliage on any of these trees to shift a daytime temperature at this point. I mean we’re talking about yesterday Furthermore, look at the observations from yesterday: I bracketed the daytime observation where foliage covering the sun would be an issue. It was overcast through 1pm with some cloud cover through at least 3pm. A clear observation was finally made after sunset. I appreciate what you were saying, but I think whatever foliage is left is not much of a factor especially on a day that was mostly overcast. To dismiss the observation as inaccurate is a bit disingenuous especially when they are within a degree or two of the region

What is the current leaf situation in Central Park? You keep saying this and you get a bunch of people to like it. I don’t see a thick canopy of leaves anywhere… Let alone enough to throw a temperature. Has anybody actually been in the park and observed these conditions?

Past two years I’ve put up the Christmas lights in 50° weather. I’ve taken them down in 50° weather These past three days of light hanging have been windy cold rainy and now snowy. I will take this as a good sign going forward