the_other_guy

Celebrate another mask mandate? Yea! Boom!

You have issues when people try to engage you with a counterpoint He makes valid points; so do you. There is a new normal. He is saying, it’s not all that many days above normal. You are looking at the historical perspective of every week being in a top 10 because we are warmer now than 120 years of records prior to this point. His counterpoint (not failed reasoning) is that running around like chicken little every year it is warm is bizarre when it is the new normal. We have another poster that keeps referencing old baselines vs the new baseline with “nowadays.” It is good to have a historical perspective, but it is also fair to point out that the baseline as changed and the temps aren’t all that unusual. In a weather based forum vs a climate based forum, it is important to at least acknowledge what he is saying

I’m not saying the whole month will be warm… I am saying that between now and the 21st it’s going to be above normal just about every day. Unless it shoots up to 80 on the solstice, Any above normal reading around that day is gonna look like the next two weeks

Hey there are skiers on here and 40’s work better than 60s

28F Too bad that little storm didnt pan out. Would have been a nice touch of winter

Wont be a warm up this year…gonna be warm right through

Snow and 34F Was up at Mt Fuji in Hillburn 32F with a coating

The 90s get over shadowed by 94 and 96. A lot of garbage in between though

Yeah everybody’s clamoring for a record… But 2015 busted all that. you’re not gonna hit any weekly or monthly record Not even going to be close. And as we get closer to the solstice, that week is in the 50s every year now. Almost normal

Wasn’t that the season where the snow kept changing to rain? If so timing for the measurement really is key

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats all I could summon after 8 pages

It’s funny my block is all below ground because it was built in the 80s and 90s via blasting into a steep rock. But it connects to roads and houses built in the 40s and that’s where all the power is fed from… above ground. You are only as good as your weakest point. 33F this morning

So youre saying we are lucky that our deps are so low compared to the mid section?

Exactly

Thats the thanksgiving number right? Was a nice event.

Nothing beautiful about today at JFK. Gusty chilly overcast mess 53F Wind gusting to 34 mph with mist

Agreed. Crazy year. LI Sound Ice. But we are talking about December in this conversation

There is no agenda. We consistently talk about that El Niño as some super event on this forum. I read it all the time “super nino” When you put up a chart showing a warming trend over a decade for the month of December and the entire eastern half of the country is blood red, perhaps a footnote. I know we certainly never had a Dec anywhere near that. Have we ever had any other month of the year in New York City that had a +12? If so that may be worth mentioning in the data. Doesn’t affect the data but gives a lot of context

Better get rid of humidity if you want to hit that average.

That’s why a median is a median. Take them both away and you still don’t have the anomalies in the original chart.

You guys are being smart for no reason. It’s the difference between a mean and the median if you remember mathematics. If you take one year with a +12 you skew the entire average. when you look at the median you realize it’s nowhere near +12 and that there is warming but a color-coded chart with an average doesn’t tell the real story. You guys should be so precise with failed long range predictions and sea-sawing opinions of models on this forum. It’s Monday…is the GFS great or a failed model today? :/

That’s a much better look at the data though. it shows much less of a warming trend in the last half of the decade.

But if you notice it’s heavily weighted to the eastern half of the country. I would like to see this chart without the 2015 El Nino in it. That would be a bit more balanced. What was that month? +12F?

Easily +7 over forecast