the_other_guy

I think this is a 6 inch storm around the 287 corridor I think you guys are hung up on last minute model differences nothing has fundamentally changed. Temperatures around 40 crashing down with precipitation moving in. Urban areas do worse with that situation but they’re still gonna get accumulating snow.

Brilliant sunshine and 37F 30 miles inland.

it looks like we had some freezing rain last night. car is coated in ice

Totally ridiculous on their part. Watches were skewed north. Im under an advisory for 4-7 inches.

so after all that Long Island is gonna get more than anybody now?

Elevation and good geography. Not a coincidence

what is upton doing? They’re gonna go right into a winter storm warning? Kind of negates the whole reason for the watch if you hold off on issuing it. Everything north of the Bronx should’ve been on a winter storm watch since yesterday.

get up and leave. You know that haha. Not for SI, but for Broome

you are so skeptical of models up here… But you believe models as gospel when they’re showing a Gulf Coast city getting a historic snowstorm? An inch would be historic there

If NWS believes their own snowfall map, why hasnt a WSW been issued for the area yet?

287 special!

Trump inauguration and parade moved indoors for cold. they really don’t like winter in DC do they?

I don’t understand I listen to a lot of people who know more than me and they said the NAM was trash nowadays

this is more of an Arctic front, much more potent air mass and the storm forming. it has similarities, but it’s different

look, you guys want Miller A’s and coastal storms. This is part of it. there is a reason why New York City had such a low snowfall average before the real effects of climate change kicked in. to get a major storm in New York City you’re always on the edge of a rain snow line because of the warm Atlantic and the nature of the coastline. you look at places like Raleigh or Atlanta and they get these periods of prolonged ice because cold air gets trapped in. It’s almost impossible to do in New York City. Off the top of my head I remember it in 1994 to kick off that brutal winter. I also remember it on Valentine’s Day in 2007. We live in an area where it’s either going to snow or it’s going to rain and the difference is not that much. this was masked in the 2000s and 2010s when the storms got so large because of climate change that they just pulled enough cold air in and you had Long Island getting 2-3 feet of snow. I grew up on Eastern Long Island, that isn’t normal…but if you hung around for that 15 year period you thought it was. So basically ride the wave with this one and hope the West train stops.

this is not a rain storm guys. Let’s not get ridiculous here

if you don’t mind me asking, why are you going so low? I think this could be a 3 to 6 inch storm. Maybe more

well, that is a very traditional New York coastal snowstorm haha

yeh and the rest of the region is negative…and not by a decimal point dude. Which tells me HPN is the outlier…like JFK last month

The most ridiculous thing I have seen in this forum. The first truly cold January in a while…and we have a handful of guys on here (and they are generally well respected guys) trying to convince us it isnt cold. ”alternative facts” as Ms Conway likes to say. 20F in Westchester. Weird trend I notice, when FOK area radiates real well…by area doesnt.

I dont even know what day we are talking about not getting snow anymore. This thread…

wind. lots of it

Not a chance

This! I dont know why we are debating this. This is a much colder and standard winter pattern then we have seen since the super nino in 2015/16. Simple facts…not really debatable. Dec and Jan will be BN. Let’s see Feb and March

I don’t know where you were living in the 90s, but this was cold then too. Let’s stop making it sound like New York in 1990 was frigid. you got 20s at night. You got 30s in the day. you got January in NYC